Can you run motor oil in the diesel?

[ellis93]

Yea, thats true. Guys thin it out with gasoline. 85% WMO 15% RUG

How's that work, first I've heard of using gas in it. Gas in a diesel of any amount is usually not a good thing. A little may not hurt but get crazy with it and you'll fornicate the K9.

[cmann250]

From what i understand (admittedly little), the small amount of gas thins it out. This helps with cut it down in general. Viscosity is lowered, then it isn't as sensitive to temperature. I can't explain the science, but i know it works. I also suspect RUG balances out the cetane.

I don't want to come across wrong, but it seems like the Cummins camp is kind of against alternative fuels. There's another site i'm on that accepts alternative fuels, but it may may hurt some of your pride to visit it I don't know the policies of mentioning other sites, but PM me if you're that interested

[ahale2772]

mention away, were not against any alternative fuels, just against possible damage from running them. My rig was run on spent cooking oil for years before I got my hands on it

[ellis93]

What alex said^^^

Post up the link, I don't THINK anyone is against that

[cmann250]

This site is newer, so there's less info
http://powerstrokearmy.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=22

This is the "parent" of PSA, so it has a little more info. Its corporate owned, so it runs slow on my computer
http://powerstrokenation.com/forums/for ... y.php?f=72

I know, i know, it's PSD based. But if it burns in their diesels, it should do the same in ours. There's alot of good info in both places, especially on starting out. (filtration, blends, settling time)

[Gots_a_sol]

I burn the waste oil from my dodge and the work superduty. It stinks and I take a small mileage hit when using it, but it is damn convenient for getting rid of all this used oil.

The last tank I had 5 gallons of oil to the rest being diesel. I usually try and only burn oil when I know I'll be doing a lot of highway driving and will run most of it out in a short amount of time vs just sitting in my tank.

[Mark Nixon]

My old '91 flatbed was being run on WVO.
It's GARBAGE, don't do it!
As far as WMO, also GARBAGE.

I've heard people call it "Black Diesel".
IMO, if after all that filtering and running it through magnets and it still has a dark color to it, it still has carbon deposits in it.

I'm also totally against ATF, which is a friction modifier, ergo NOT A LUBRICANT!!!
Think of the tiny holes on the injectors when this crap runs through them.

WAFs (Waste Alternative Fuels) are a nice idea, but if they were viable, don't you think the government and oil companies would already have a supply line and taxation figured out?

Mark.

[ellis93]

I'm also totally against ATF, which is a friction modifier, ergo NOT A LUBRICANT!!!
Think of the tiny holes on the injectors when this crap runs through them.


Mark.

Not a lubricant,what's it doing in a trans then.

No body should ever run type F trans fluid it is all friction modifier, dexron/mercon is mostly detergents.

[Mark Nixon]

No body should ever run type F trans fluid it is all friction modifier, dexron/mercon is mostly detergents.

ALL transmission fluids are a friction modifier, if there is lubricity, it's very little.
A detergent is NOT a lubricant, either and could exacerbate the issue.

Regardless, when it's waste ATF, it also has a certain amount of particulates that won't come out with a magnet, IE; aluminum.

It's your engine, don't agree with me if you want, just don't be surprised if there is eventual damage down the road.

Mark.

[ellis93]

Mr mark I've used it in my truck for the last 140k without ill effect.

As far as its lubricating properties,how could a dodge transmission ever stay together. They depend solely on thrust washers and bushings. If they're not lubricated,they'll not be there long.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automati ... sion_fluid

[Mark Nixon]

It's your engine, don't agree with me if you want, just don't be surprised if there is eventual damage down the road.

Mark.

[ellis93]

Regardless, when it's waste ATF, it also has a certain amount of particulates that won't come out with a magnet, IE; aluminum.


Mark.

I didn't read your post fully Mr Mark, I use brand new 1qt dex/merc III. I do agree fully with your above statement.

[dazedandconfused]

I use to run 2 stroke oil in my VP truck but that's about all I'd ever do. This was 4 years ago though before the price of 2 stroke oil really went insane.

[oldestof11]

Something to think about.

My grandfather worked in the main mechanics shop in Notre Dame for Studebaker. They had a guy come in and ask for their old oil. The guy poured it straight into his engine after he emptied "dam near new oil" according to the old man. They laughed at him and told him to buzz off. About 30 mins after he started his engine, while running it above idle in front of the shop, he called the guys back. Opened the oil drain and out came new oil. My grandfather was very inquisitive and asked if he could see what did it. Opened the hood to find the oil coming out of the oil pressure gauge had a T. The copper wire was run around the exhaust manifold and went through a sediment filter "like they used on the old tractors." After that it went around the manifold again before going through 2 filters.

Something about heating the oil really hot separated the oil from the sediments. I don't know how that will affect synthetic though.

[autocar56]

Yellow freight and Roadway do it in their older units that dont have diesel particulate filters, Roadway has what they call the dripper system, oil goes thru a filter into a restricted fitting and drips engine oil into the fuel tanks, adjust the oil level every fuel stop. When its time to change the oil ,just the filters get changed and the oil level is adjusted again. Those trucks have 600.000 and up miles.