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by **MMeier** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:03 pm

The aftermarket banjo goes in that location, correct ? ... I go by Mark actaully ! :lol:

by **Richie O** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:00 am

I think its real cose to being as cheap buying the 2nd gen lift pump and then getting a fuel regulator. The low pressure setups are way to much now.

by **1STGENFARMBOY** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:09 am

Does the 2nd gen pump need the spacer and fuel line to fit,

by **PToombs** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:09 pm

Yup. The spacer is because the 2nd gen trucks have a strainer that mounts there, and the spacer takes the place of it. The line can be rebent, I've been told. It comes out differently than stock, so you need to do something with it.

by **1STGENFARMBOY** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:14 pm

OK so why cant i just put an inline 12-14psi 50gph electric pump in it, is there any reason that wont work please give me advice. thanks

by **ahale2772** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:26 pm

electric pumps are junk in my opinion why put a weak link in a fuel system im sure some pumps are good but ive always seen then as a weak link that is definitly going to fail at some point I just put a 30psi pump in my truck with a mallory boost refrenced regulator the truck pulls stronger and never seams to run out of fuel 15-17 psi normal driving 18-21 psi under heavy load at over 30 psi of boost I couldent be happier and I only paid 300 dollars for the whole system

by **Mark Nixon** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:39 pm

PToombs wrote: A 2nd gen pump puts out 25 -30 psi, which our IP's won't take.

OH, REALLY?
About this time last year, when I put the '91 VE engine in the red '96 that later got sold to Pullit, I used the '96 Piston pump set-up that the '96 came with on the '91 VE pumped engine I installed in the truck.
I didn't have any adverse injection pump issues, no blown pump gaskets, no leaks, just put it on not knowing there even COULD be an issue.

The pump did rupture the diaphragm to the block, loading it with diesel, but I am certain it was age/mileage (300,000 +/- miles) related, not an incompatibility issue.
Plus the P/P assembly had laid unused and dry for 3 or 4 years before I re-used it.
This is confusing, because nothing seeming to be out of the ordinary happened, now I learn it could be an issue?

I just acquired a '95 Ram P/P assembly and was intending to use it later to upgrade on the carhauler, since it draws from a tank nearly 20 feet away.

Mark.

by **ahale2772** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:28 pm

every set up seams to tolerate diffent pressures ive read some older posts from cumminsking and kta and they all seem to agree that the front seal blows out at about 25-30psi I know they were taking about ways to keep the seal in because aparently the problem is the seal body staying in the bore not actually the lip of the seal leaking

by **1STGENFARMBOY** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:58 pm

Hey PToombs I just called my local CaseIH dealer to price that ag pump where you change the first 3 in the cummins part number to a J and he priced that thing to me for $365.00 bucks WOW thats more than im willing to spend.

I think ill try a walbro and see how it does, I know its a gamble and i mite have to buy it anyhow but im so dang cheep.

by **mprmn08** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:12 pm

365??

i bought mine for $105 from cummins bridgeway. i'll try and track down the updated part number for you to get that one if you want it.

by **ahale2772** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:15 pm

yeah should only be 200 max try again go to cummins maybe

by **PToombs** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:19 pm

There is a "new" and "updated" pump. You can't get the old one anymore, and the cost is about $300. At least from the Case/IH dealers. I went thru this when I tried to get one for a buddy. Nuthin's cheap any more! :cry: