Advice on VE pump

[SChandler]

The discussion on 2-stroke oil is here: http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/alter ... e-oil.html. It is 92 pages currently. From what I have read of that thread and the other threads that correspond with it, generally the Walmart Super Tech 2-stroke oil is preferred do to cheap price and availability. 1oz to 1 gal of fuel added to tank is reccomended ratio. I just started with the last tank, will post results later on if people want them. Make sure the oil is rated TC-3 ASHLESS. The ashless is important to not forming deposits on the injectors. Sorry to get off topic Nooblet, but you did ask. Thanks for the great pics, they certainly help with the discussion.

[nooblet]

Not off the topic at all! Thank you for the update and the link, I look forward to hearing what you think. Right now I'm running diesel additive, but if 2-stroke oil is better to run I'd be very interested.

I have nothing but time anyway. My t-case is sitting in a bazillion pieces on the work bench at the moment waiting for a rebuild kit. Since I can't sit still I've cleaned every little piece that came out of the t-case down the bare metal. Tomorrow I'm wire-wheeling the housing and painting it.

I'm thinking black...but Cummins blue keeps drifting into my mind...suggestions?

Chris

[roxxx]

Cough Cough I have used atf oil in V8 cats and VW tdi. I now use the stanadyne, diesel additive. I think for the most part it’s whatever you feel comfortable with .Same as owning different trucks and cars people swear by different brands. I have being warned by dealers not to put any in ,but had a vp 44 last forever and I add the stanadyne. I also know a service manager who swears by it due to the poor quality of fuel up here.The main thing is lubricity. The pumps need to be lubricated ,the low and ultra ultra low sulphur diesel do not have the same lubricity as the older fuels .

[Ace]

This has been circulating for a couple months now, but thought I'd go ahead and post it here, since it is probably the most important information you can have as fas as keeping your VE healthy is concerned:

http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177728

2-stroke oil is indeed a good value for #2 lubricity purposes, and there are a few surprises in there as well. MMO and Stanadyne in particular, are definite no-no's. Whoda thunk it!

Anybody know where to get Opti-Lube or FPPF products?

[roxxx]

Quiet and intersting string. I think i am going to drop in and see what the cummins dealership in Calgary have on their shelves, I can t remember now. I would like to say they had the Opti-Lube but cant remember

[SChandler]

Thanks for that thread Ace. Very informative and seems to support what has been guessed at before, that 2-stroke oil (at least from a wear perspective) is good for your motor.

I have been running it for several tanks now and changes I've noticed are as follows:
1) Engine noise seems to be down slightly. It sounds a little smoother. Not sure how to describe it other than that.
2) Hot restarts puff more smoke than it used to, but only when ambient air is hot. But then my truck has always smoked more when the air is hot versus cold air. Cold starts have had no noticeable change.
3) Mileage has gone up slightly, approximately 0.5-1 mpg. I need to recheck my numbers, but before the 2-stroke oil I was averaging just over 19 in my 92 and now it seems to hover right around 20. Hope this helps and remember, your mileage may vary.

[DTanklage]

2-stroke oil is indeed a good value for #2 lubricity purposes, and there are a few surprises in there as well. MMO and Stanadyne in particular, are definite no-no's. Whoda thunk it!

Anybody know where to get Opti-Lube or FPPF products?

hang on a minute - dont you think it funny that these test results were released to the public saying "bio is best, opt lube is second best, everything else pretty much sucks, mmo 2 stroke oil, stantadine, and a bunch of others that you have all been using for years. and that some ACTUALLY DECREASE THE LUBE PROPERTIES"????????

call me sceptical but i aint buying it - sounds like bs

at the time of the release of this test you couldnt even find opti lube

you can find it now - and i wouldnt be surprise if the same folks that released those results are getting rich cuz of it...

[Ace]

Did you read the part under "METHOD:"?

[DTanklage]

i read it

didnt understand it but i read it

lol

dont see how mmo could make diesel less slippery, sorry

[Ace]

The testing was conducted by a well respected independent lab, partially funded by the forum members, and both they and the lab appeared to have gone the extra mile to establish strict control parameters and include a wide assortment of products, even from companies who declined to participate, for what I would characterize as obvious reasons.

Not very often you get that kind of unbiased research in this business. Works for me.

Of course it could be complete load of hooey. Or not.

[DTanklage]

well i think they are a bunch of tree huggers!

lol

i dont know.,..

found it funny how #1 was bio and #2 was some stuff you couldnt find

so i take it you are running xtp now? if so how is it workin for ya?

[Ace]

I had benn using mostly filtered used oil and a little MMO plus the recommended amount of either Fuel Power or Power Service for anti-gel in the winter. I stopped the MMO and went to a 60-35-5 ratio of used oil, 2-stroke, and power service after I saw that report.

The waste oil is not bad, just not that good either. But MMO is definitely out for lubricity purposes. I always knew MMO contained some paraffinic solvents and used it mostly for it's cleaning properties. No more - only for UCL in the gassers from now on, until I hear otherwise.

I can say however, that I noticed a definite improvement in the engine sound and slightly better mileage after I started really pumping up the fuel adds with used oil about eight months ago.

[dpuckett]

Don, the people paying for the test sent them the bottles of additives in containers marked 1 through 15 (or however many there were- I read it a few weeks ago), along with desired mixing rate of the aditives for testing. This alone would lead me to believe it was somewhat on the up-and-up.

I am not surprised that bio diesel was the best lubricity enhancer. I heard 10 years ago it added lubricity in small quantities. I am also not surprised I hadnt heard of additive #2 on the list, as I doubt I have heard of them all. Maybe if I had been in the racing circles....

It is similar to the oil tests the TDR did a few months back, with Wally World narrowly beating out Rotella.

[DTanklage]

maybe i am just sceptical cuz of all the scadalus (bogus) stuff i have seen printed regarding some of the drag racing and high performance (gas) additives

i am pretty ignorant when it comes to this diesel stuff...

once i get my truck dialed in i will definately give that xtp a try

don

ps - it does not take a rocket scientist to know there is no such thing as engine rebuild in a can for $9.95 - same thing applies to ulsd - it is not the best thing for my truck - that much i have figured out...