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Re: Exploring the great unknown,a moron and the ve

Postby PToombs » Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:15 pm

I have a 4bt pump to play with. I pulled the head off it, saw the springs and such, and put it back on. I'll play with it later when mine starts to act up. :lol:
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Re: Exploring the great unknown,a moron and the ve

Postby ellis93 » Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:59 am

Alright guys....those that have torn them apart. What is the piece in side the pump that's assembled backwards and leads to a not start condition?
I've seen it mentioned a few times but can't remember.
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Re: Exploring the great unknown,a moron and the ve

Postby oldestof11 » Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:58 am

2 things:

180 out on the cam plate. The little nub that orientates the rotor should be inline with the key.

Shutdown lever wasn't installed correctly.
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Re: Exploring the great unknown,a moron and the ve

Postby ellis93 » Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:26 pm

Ok I'll look at the lever and remember the nub thing.
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Re: Exploring the great unknown,a moron and the ve

Postby ellis93 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:54 pm

I've now pulled down the non intercooled pump and found a rusty mess in the vane pump :puker: looks like I'll use at least one part from the junk pump. :roll:

What do you guys do about holding the head and rotor assembly together when you reassemble the pump? Do I need some grease to hold it? I'm sure that all goes back before the govenor lever and what not does.....?
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Re: Exploring the great unknown,a moron and the ve

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:20 pm

Vaseline or grease works well to hold things in place. You'll need to install the head fulcrum lever prior to putting the head back on, because there are 2 springs that push on the fulcrum lever from the head assembly.
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Re: Exploring the great unknown,a moron and the ve

Postby ellis93 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:42 pm

Yeah I seen them when disassembling the pump. All that loose stuff looks like it's gonna be a real pita to get back together too.
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Re: Exploring the great unknown,a moron and the ve

Postby ellis93 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:10 am

Post number two,updated.
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Re: Exploring the great unknown,a moron and the ve

Postby PToombs » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:15 pm

Nice explanation with the pics, thanks Ellis!

When I had my shaft out of the pump top, I drove the balls out, then threaded the holes and put set screws back in with some Loctite or sealer or something on them. I can't remember what I used. :oops: Next time I won't have to be driving on the pump top, just grab an allen wrench and pull the screws.
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Re: Exploring the great unknown,a moron and the ve

Postby ellis93 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:45 pm

Nice tip Pete :thumright: I'll use that.
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Re: Exploring the great unknown,a moron and the ve

Postby ellis93 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:26 pm

Updated
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Re: Exploring the great unknown,a moron and the ve

Postby PToombs » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:36 pm

Again? You know, I DO have better things to do than keep running back to your 1st post and look for what word you changed! :P
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Re: Exploring the great unknown,a moron and the ve

Postby ellis93 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:43 pm

Man I wish it was just one word :roll:
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Re: Exploring the great unknown,a moron and the ve

Postby PToombs » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:45 pm

I just finished it, you could have put the assembly on this page. ;)
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Re: Exploring the great unknown,a moron and the ve

Postby ellis93 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:53 pm

Sweet Jesus.....are you freakin kidding me. Why would I want to do that. I'm doing all this picture taking for us,the collective and I saved those spots so no one had to dig thru my bs for the goods. You know how we (me) like to bullschit
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