H1C 60mm compressor housing and wheel upgrade.

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Re: H1C 60mm compressor housing and wheel upgrade.

Postby Ryker Carruthers » Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:58 am

ellis93 wrote:
Ryker Carruthers wrote:Going to a 63 on an hx35... I think I'll run the 14, may put the 16 back on depending on drive pressure.

Where are you purchasing your parts?

The exhaust housing (14) from GDS. Compressor wheel from one of the guys on facebook... it's a 63x99 billet unit.
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Re: H1C 60mm compressor housing and wheel upgrade.

Postby Cole92w250 » Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:14 pm

Ive notice alot quicker boost off the line with this upgrade.
Maxing out at 20psi with a 3200 gov spring and fuel pin. No other adjustments, does this seem normal for the 60mm-16cm houz...
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Re: H1C 60mm compressor housing and wheel upgrade.

Postby Ryker Carruthers » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:27 am

20 is about what it ought to hit stock. When I had my 60/16 I was hitting 30-35, cranked the pump up more and was able to touch 50. I'm not sure how much that wheel changed the MAP but I'm sure 50 was to much.
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Re: H1C 60mm compressor housing and wheel upgrade.

Postby Cole92w250 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:22 am

what pump change did you do?
I just want an extra 10-15psi and not have to tweak too much on the ve pump
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Re: H1C 60mm compressor housing and wheel upgrade.

Postby jethro » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:42 pm

Cole -----
here is how I got my H1C apart without breaking it too bad :o
Get three 5/16 sized coupler nuts and 3 matching bolts (about 3/4 inch long)
Grind the lettering off the bolt heads so they are smooth. put some antiseise on the threads and screw them into the nuts
all the way in. Insert the nut/bolt combo in the space in between the two housings. do all 3 at 120 degree angles as best you can. These things will form little miniature railroad jacks. screw them out until they touch. Then tuen them out in unison -
about 1/4 turn at a time. keep them syncronised- so as to NOT TIP the housing and let the housing touch the blade tops.
You can rap on the core a little as you go to encourage movement. With all 3 of those expanding- it cant help but move.....
Once its off you can clean the joint and use copper anti-seise on re-assy.

Hope that helps- I was not at ease with beating the crap out of cast housings with very tight tip clearances !
(but that's just me ..... :alien:

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Re: H1C 60mm compressor housing and wheel upgrade.

Postby stillsmokin » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:33 pm

Cole92w250 wrote:Ive notice alot quicker boost off the line with this upgrade.
Maxing out at 20psi with a 3200 gov spring and fuel pin. No other adjustments, does this seem normal for the 60mm-16cm houz...


I think the 16 is a dated mod, it's an easy bolt in part (far better than the lagtastic 21) but, still slow on spool speed. I've done alot of 3200, pin, 12cm gated on mild trucks and people always really like them. Put a needle valve between the gate and the manifold, then up the boost to 30 or maybe a touch more. One turn of fuel and a pin will spool a 60x6 12cm nicely on mild truck, it has a very whistly sound through a 4" diamond eye exhaust with 30" of free flow muffler to take the raspy sound out. Makes for a nice clean burn with really good towing power.

FWIW the stock trucks with 21cm turbos produced a measly 12 psi of boost, the turbos never wear because they never did anything!
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Re: H1C 60mm compressor housing and wheel upgrade.

Postby spencerdiesel » Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:37 am

Cole, increasing fuel will increase boost. A turn or two on the fuel screw
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Re: H1C 60mm compressor housing and wheel upgrade.

Postby Cole92w250 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:35 am

spencer, how much will acouple turns increase just from your experience?
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Re: H1C 60mm compressor housing and wheel upgrade.

Postby spencerdiesel » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:08 am

About 30-35ish psi can be had with Stock injectors and stock (18cm) turbo. This is with a "maxed" fuel screw, aftermarket fuel pin etc. most people can get anywhere from 3 to 5 turns on an intercooled engine before the screw bottoms.
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Re: H1C 60mm compressor housing and wheel upgrade.

Postby Cole92w250 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:45 pm

I should be safe than with 35psi with; 60mm/16cm housing, fuel pin, 3200 spring, Intercooled and 3.5 inch turbo back, EH?
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Re: H1C 60mm compressor housing and wheel upgrade.

Postby spencerdiesel » Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:29 pm

Other than EGT, your next "barrier" is your stock head gasket. Is your timing stock? 35 psi should be a safe number with your setup
1992 W250, 5 speed, 4.10, Ext. cab Ext. bed, 12.5k winch, 75 gal. fuel tank

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Re: H1C 60mm compressor housing and wheel upgrade.

Postby DMan1198 » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:42 pm

To get a little more potential life out of your headgasket make sure your engine is up to full coolant temperature before going over about half throttle. That'll ensure everything is expanded as much as it'll go, and provide the best possible seal.
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Re: H1C 60mm compressor housing and wheel upgrade.

Postby spencerdiesel » Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:49 pm

Or do like me and see 0 psi until its at 190 degrees :D

I wouldn't copy me on that, You'll get a lot of birds.
1992 W250, 5 speed, 4.10, Ext. cab Ext. bed, 12.5k winch, 75 gal. fuel tank

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Re: H1C 60mm compressor housing and wheel upgrade.

Postby DMan1198 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:24 am

I just don't go above 10-15psi. Still gets up to speed at a decent rate, but sure isn't pushing the truck
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Re: H1C 60mm compressor housing and wheel upgrade.

Postby Cole92w250 » Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:39 pm

star wheel is maxed out and i hitting 20psi max. Only tweak on the vp
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