Anyone have experience with an ICEBOX Air filter system???

[Cole92w250]

ICEBOX Ams filter?

[thrashingcows]

Since our Newb didn't post a link....

http://www.iceboxintakes.com/products/gen-1-icebox-cold-air-intake

[thrashingcows]

Nice set-up...but I don't buy into the "Cotton" high air flow filters....if they are so great then why doesn't the commercial trucking industry use them. And I'm a commercial trucker BTW.

I've also had very bad performance from these filters...letting all kinds of debris through that a paper filter element would never let through. Only paper for me...on all my vehicles..ever!

[Cole92w250]

Good point. Still looking... any suggestion

[liftarc]

How much actual value is there to a cai system on an intercooled turbo engine? Seems to me an oversized paper filter should be plenty on that end and efforts towards cooling charge air would be better spent on the intercooler itself.

[PToombs]

A BHAF will support a lot of horsepower, never had any problems with a paper filter.

[BC847]

The problem with that system is the fact it's NOT a cold-air intake. A fancy rain-shield yes, cold air, no

[thrashingcows]

A BHAF will support a lot of horsepower, never had any problems with a paper filter.

That is what I would do first...BHAF...is I needed more air flow on a paper filter.

[PToombs]

The problem with that system is the fact it's NOT a cold-air intake. A fancy rain-shield yes, cold air, no

True!

[BC847]

How much actual value is there to a cai system on an intercooled turbo engine? Seems to me an oversized paper filter should be plenty on that end and efforts towards cooling charge air would be better spent on the intercooler itself.

- Our engine uses air as the working medium. At a given altitude, coupled with a given temperature, we have a medium of a given density. Changing any of the former, directly alters the latter.
It's more efficient and cost effective to begin with a denser medium (cooler air). The addition of a charge-air cooler (CAC AKA: AC or IC) regains some of the increase in density lost by the addition of the heat of compression introduced by way of the turbo.

In the gasser world IIRC, every 10*F decrease in charge-air temperature results in a 1% power increase across the entire RPM range.

[liftarc]

It's more efficient and cost effective to begin with a denser medium (cooler air).

Good point. I'd be interested in seeing the actual effect on post-turbo and then post-cac density of changing intake air temps but I'm not about to do all that calculating...