WTH IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE

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Re: WTH IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE

Postby ellis93 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:47 am

oldestof11 wrote:Cmon now. How many of you would look more than twice at these trucks if you had the money to buy and support this truck? I know i would. They are a damn fine truck.


I could afford it now Jon,but......BIG but here.....it wouldn't be new. I'm not gonna lose 10gs just by riding off the lot in it. Also I find it funny that when they come out and are thrown up for sale they list this price but after it sits for 8months on a dealer lot there is a magical even that takes place. Thru dealer incentives and rebates and all kinds of other garbage,that trucks value drops to something like 55gs. I find that utterly amazing how they can just drop the price in the blink of an eye :lol:
Has any body thought of what the amount of interest would be over an 8yr term? :lol: I bet you could buy a few 1stgen parts with that
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Re: WTH IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:07 am

If one can buy one after the rebates and all the goodies for $55,000.00

After 8 years you are paying $69,386.00 (8 years/6.0%)

So you are getting "free interest" after the rebates (salesman's view)(I was a salesman for about 5 years)

Now, assuming "today's market".......in 8 years that truck will cost about $25,000.00 (possibly higher with the market trend)


So, the vehicle will cost you $44,386.88 to own for 8 years, or $5,548.36 per year, or $462.36 per month to own.


The above is not including insurance........but is that vehicle worth to you


ONLY $462.36 per month? Makes it look a lot nicer doesn't it?
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Re: WTH IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE

Postby ellis93 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:16 am

Yep and add another 300$ to it and you've a manageable house note too :lol:
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Re: WTH IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:24 am

Yes sir, one something that SHOULD (always have in the past anyways, future not too confident) go up in value.

And some of us have mortgages that resemble the above payment.
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Re: WTH IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE

Postby tampabayBill » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:38 am

I'm finally at a point in my life where I can buy any damn thing I want. I chose my 93. I'm an old ( really old ) hot rodder and I enjoy playing with a real truck. They are a lot lighter than newer stuff, easy to work on and its just fun to suprise the hell out of guys in much newer vehicles. So for me its a daily driver, trailer tower and a hobby I really enjoy even when I sometimes work on it when I have to rather than when I want to.
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Re: WTH IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE

Postby Remps » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:40 am

70K for a 6.7 that has powdered metal sawdust board connecting rods and gets 10 mpg. Sounds awesome, who doesn't want to buy a cummins with downgraded garbage internals, and could break down at any time, with a 1000 different things which could be causing the problem? :lol:
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Re: WTH IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:47 am

The 6.7s weren't all that bad (note weren't)

IF one were to delete all the garbage they would pull a very respectable 19-21mpg and had unreal power.

but now that one can't touch anything without the epa approving it, they are just that..... a truck that gets worse fuel economy than almost any gasser now a days.
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Re: WTH IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE

Postby oldestof11 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:03 pm

If you plan on having a resale value, then it would be stupid to purchase it. However, if i had the money, i would buy one as a DD and keep it till my dying day. Then i would have a pick of the crop for my cool vehicle. Restore and build the old one and keep it in ideal condition.
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Re: WTH IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE

Postby bmoeller » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:12 pm

RumbleFish wrote:If I had the money for a new truck, I'd restore a 1st gen. Theres a reason I havent owned any other truck besides 81-93 Dodges.


That's it for me, too, pretty much. That's why I'm building an 82 crew, vs buying a new mega cab long box dually.

I had a 97 and 99 3500, but the 1st gens are SOOOO much easier to work on! My W250 in particular, since it had a lift and big tires. I could sit up, under it! :D Kinda wished I'd kept the 97 sometimes, but running the overhead is a piece of cake on the 1st gens. Not having the back 2 jugs under the firewall cowl is nice!
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SOLD- '92 W250, CTD, ext cab, 5spd

SOLD- '99 3500, SO CTD, 5spd

Traded off- '97 3500 CTD, 416hp/892tq.

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Re: WTH IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE

Postby CAJUN 93 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:24 am

As someone who works in a dealership I am constantly amazed at how much people spend on cars and trucks. As someone who has driven dodge trucks since I got my license in 1986 I can tell you if I was given a brand new one I would sell it and use the money to finish the crew w350 project. JMO, of course. Btw, one would be much better off investing that 50-60k in something that will return 5-7% or more, rather than riding in a shiny new truck

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Re: WTH IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE

Postby ihredneck » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:06 am

Ok, so highway queen drivers, I can see them spending this kinda money, but the average Joe?!
That's rediculous! I Just bought 6 acres, a 30x40 shop and manufactured home with well and septic system for less than that! :O
Mine'll last a lot longer too and I can sleep more comfortably in my house than a heated/cooled leather seat ;)
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Re: WTH IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE

Postby CumminsPower59 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:51 pm

A few weekends ago, the woman and I were out of town, killing time on a Sunday morning before we had other obligations to tend to. We were talking about "The Pile", and got on the subject of new trucks. We went to two stealerships in the Des Moines IA area, and out of the 60+ trucks I looked at, only one had a manual transmission, and only one had a manual transfer case lever. I couldn't find a plain-jane four door 4x4 for under 45k. I told her that there was no way I could justify the payment on that, along with insurance, fuel and maintenance. I then told her that the price of these new trucks are ridiculous, and there is no need for something new. We will need a truck with rear room, so I told her that building a crew cab is the only option in reality. She seemed to agree when I put pen to paper and showed her the numbers. 10-15k to build a really nice crew 1st gen over two-three years is way easier on finances than some 6-8yr note on a new truck...
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Re: WTH IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE

Postby Knoberman » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:52 am

I refuse to spend that kind of money on something that probably will have problems that could cost as much as putting my whole truck together. Maybe not finishing it, but running driving.
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Re: WTH IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE

Postby ihredneck » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:11 am

Knoberman wrote:I refuse to spend that kind of money on something that probably will have problems that could cost as much as putting my whole truck together. Maybe not finishing it, but running driving.



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