it's a fact dtr will read pm's and do delete them. i've had mine read by jack thorpe and he even called my cell about one of them. [a friend of mine called jack a c*ck sucker in a pm to me and jack was mad that i didnt defend him] i thought a PRIVATE message was PRIVATE. if ya invite someone by pm to a club event it may be deleted by him or lary or one of their minions. they are a bunch of nazis at DTR.
as ya know the idaho club has a lot of events. weve been active since early 02. we now have our own website
www.idahoturbodiesels.com . my daughter posted at dtr [as i am long banned for calling a crooked dealer a stealership] and lary banned my daughter for posting an idaho dynoday event notification there. he also banned half the idaho guys that posted on the idaho event thread. they wanted to have just a dtr member only event posted at dtr. how stupid.
they want to push the dtr id chapter crap even though idaho bombers has been established for 7 years.
i was member #19 at dtr and offered the 1st mod job. it was actually fun there in the begining till jack got $ signs in his eyes.
as to cf, i'll try to make a lng story short. our club used tdr at the start and then since a big bunch of members were too cheap to spend the 35 bucks we needed a 'free' site in addition to TDR to post events. we used dtr but their censorship bs pissed many of us off. we ended up using CF when DM and whitmore ran it. they are a coupld of good guys. andy was the owner but he never got involved. i was invited to be super mod there.
as time went on andy got greedy. a site that was nothing and was ready to fold up early on expanded greatly thanks to the efforts of dm and whitmore. in addition to much advertising $ he then said he was going to charge the members. many of us said f-that and abondoned cf. we had TDR for our pay site. we werent gonna stick around cf and pay too. andy decided later to forget the pay idea as it was unpopular. just has different memberships for pay. more pay = less ad's on the screen. all about money for andy. most of the old members left and are at
www.dieselbombers.com which is a great site ran by dm and whit.
anyway us idaho guys decided we needed a site of our own for idaho events and such. idaho bombers was born. it started out with a funky url for temporary use. we were going to grab the
www.idahobombers.com url. steve [sea01cummins] was mod at cf and is my partner at ITD. steve pm'ed whitmore stating he was going to resign due to conflict of interest. of course whit fwd the pm to the owner, andy. andy promptly grabed up the idaho bombers .com url on the same day that we attempted to install it. what chicken sh!t!!!!!!!!!! [DA enterprises is andy and his dad dean.] they stole our url so that is why we have a different name now. andy is using
www.idahobombers.com for a spam advertising pg now.
now cf is pushing for an idaho chapter of cf. even electing an idaho president. although there is an established idaho club and has been since 02 they want one on their website. most the cf membership there now are newer and dont realize the whole story and that the idaho club formerly used cf primarily for event planning and discusion and the reason why cf is no longer used by the idaho bombers.
both these sites got big. and greedy. i have nothing to do with them and voice my opinion publicly, often.