Front leaf spring sackle bushings

[Mark Nixon]

The diesels DO have heavier hardware, namely in bolt sizing.

Mark.

[RCCUMMINS89]

They are identicle with the exception of the spring eye bolts and the rear eye bolts

[Mark Nixon]

They are identicle with the exception of the spring eye bolts and the rear eye bolts

And the corresponding bushings.

Mark.

[Tacoclaw]

If the frame side of the shackle is the same this is still relevant. I'll check my bolt and bore when I get the chance tomorrow and let you know.

[RCCUMMINS89]

They are different.

Well.... from my research the bushing that we are talking about is different from any other bushing on the truck.

[slow_90firebird]

Hey guys... Sorry I've been gone so long I never saw this thread.

Anyhow I went thru this last year when I swapped front springs. I planned on the bushings being stuck to the bolts, but they came right out.

Anyway, iirc the bushings in the frame are the same as the stock bushings in the rear spring eye... The bolts are the same also. At least that's what the spring shop told me.

I actually ordered an extra set of poly bushings for the frame that I never used. The rubber ones were in great shape.

One thing I did, that I highly recommend, is made my own new shackle sides. Exactly 1/2" longer than stock. This is because the 2" skyjackers use a positive arch while the o.e. ones were neutral arch. I cut them from 3/8 plate and drilled them on a drill press, used gr8 bolts to replace the studs.

Just FYI the front bolts / bushings are bigger. 5/8". The rears are 9/16" iirc.

[RCCUMMINS89]

So hold on

Can you confirm, or at least do you know for sure this is the same bushing(s) as the regular front leaf spring eyes have? Because, I have been told by quite a few people that they are diff.... which is why "jungle jim" over on ramchargercentral made an entire "kit" as to replace them with better bushings.

If these are these same than I need to cancel my order and save myself 95% of my soon to be wasted money and just buy some.

[Mark Nixon]

Just my opinion, but if I were needing these bushings and I couldn''t find the "for sure" original, I'd find something that's "close", maybe a little longer, and trim it to fit.
With something like this bushing, which is apparently seldom replaced, if you don't get the right part and just guess that the people you are dealing with know what they are selling/doing, you'll likely get burned.
I'd much rather make a mistake on my own and be stuck with it, than have someone else make the mistake for me, and I'm STILL stuck with it.

Mark.

[RCCUMMINS89]

Well..... a lot of this would be solved if I were to just pick up the phone and call Dodge for the p/n and cross it with the reg. ones.

However, Bushings are kind of an important thing to a vehicle driving correctly... and the ones from Dodge will be the correct ones..... as they are straight out of the book for this specific app.

[Mark Nixon]

I posted the part number earlier.
2653700

Mark.

[RCCUMMINS89]

Yep......looks like you did.

[slow_90firebird]

If you have a caliper handy just try and measure the O.D. of the outer steel sleeve to be sure. Assuming the shackles are apart already. You will know right away that the bolt hole is 9/16 and the width is just over 2.5" because the shackles are the same distance apart at the top and bottom.

I remember that I figured out I could use poly bushings in there if needed. I don't remember if I was supposed to cut the steel sleeve out or leave it in and just burn the rubber.

Iirc jungle Jim is making his to take a larger bushing and therefore a larger bolt. That was his advantage...

[Mark Nixon]

I remember that I figured out I could use poly bushings in there if needed. I don't remember if I was supposed to cut the steel sleeve out or leave it in and just burn the rubber.

Some of the poly stuf does re-use the shell, I'm betting that's the case here, since those bushings are so rarely replaced.

Mark.

[RCCUMMINS89]

Well.... they came in. I'll swing down tomorrow and pick them up.

[RCCUMMINS89]

2953700 is the part number.

They are different than any other bushing on the vehicle.