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2nd gen springs?

Postby 93 W350 LE » Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:52 am

Was working on a friends 01 2500 and noticed the rear spring pack only has 3 springs and a helper. Where my 93 350 has 6 springs in the pack. Can we use the newer springs? Or will they not work? Different length?

Thanks.

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Re: 2nd gen springs?

Postby DMan1198 » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:17 pm

You'd have to take a tape measure to it. They have to be 2.5 inch wide. Otherwise they should work
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Re: 2nd gen springs?

Postby Black93 » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:03 pm

Best I can remember the 2nd gens are 3" wide, I can't remember the length though.
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Re: 2nd gen springs?

Postby PToombs » Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:26 pm

2nd gen springs are 1/2" wider and longer, so they won't work without a major rework job. I was looking at that myself and just bought new ones.
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Re: 2nd gen springs?

Postby 93 W350 LE » Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:58 pm

Thanks. I knew it couldn't be so easy.


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Re: 2nd gen springs?

Postby rb70383 » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:54 am

2nd gens have 2.5" and 3" wide springs. Depends on the gvw. Over 8800 is the 3". Length is 63" iirc.

Here it is:
http://www.generalspringkc.com/Leaf_Spr ... s/1916.htm
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Re: 2nd gen springs?

Postby JimmieD » Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:51 am

Just a friendly warning on new springs...

I bought brand new front spring packs complete from Eaton Detroit Spring when I did my Cummins swap into Town Wagon. I ordered springs to be 250 lbs higher capacity per side, so 500 lbs total increase in spring rate.

Installed them and they were good for about a month, but sagged out flat with spring shackles up against the frame in 3 months! Complained to Eaton Detroit Spring and their best offer was, "Send them back and we'll take a look at them. If we determine the springs are at fault we will re-arch them." I asked what kind of re-arch, hot or cold, and did they mean they would upgrade the load capacity or something? No, not at all: they would only cold press them, as in adding a few kinks from the press, not replace or re-temper or anything useful. That is, IF they determined they were bad. So I might end up having them determine there was no problem, a crapshoot at best.

Also I would pay shipping back to them, plus shipping to me again, which was as much as I paid for the whole setup in the first place. Long story short - TOTAL SCREWJOB AND NOTHING BUT JUNK!

I ended up pulling the springs off a neighbor's parts truck, a 1950's Chevy pickup, and used them. They were far better than the new Eaton garbage!
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