Atlas springs on the way

everything but the drivetrain

Moderators: Greenleaf, BC847, Richie O

Re: Atlas springs on the way

Postby cmann250 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:03 pm

It'd been forever and a day since I logged in over there. Look at Mr. High Roller Sponsor! :lol:

I'm pretty ignorant on 4x4 stuff, but how's the ride? My rear leaves are wearing into each other and I'll need to address that sooner or later.
Caleb, Certified Shade Tree Mechanic Extraordinaire :mrgreen:
The 1stgen.org black sheep

"Whatever!" - Coach Jerry Smith
cmann250
14mm rotor
 
Posts: 4059
Joined: Fri May 20, 2011 5:25 pm
Location: Lafayette, IN

Re: Atlas springs on the way

Postby opiebennett » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:17 am

RCCUMMINS89 wrote:http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/89-93-non-powertrain/1065554-help-me-choose-springs-4.html#post12079426


Does this count as good enough? LOL


I'll post them here as well -

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image
Bryan 'Opie' Bennett
91.5 5.9L with 21mm H1C/A518/NP205 Reg Cab LE Pyro/Boost/Trans Temp/BD Fuel Pin/Some fuel screw/Diamond Eye 4" exhaust/B+M Deep Trans Pan/3rd Gen aluminum wheels
User avatar
opiebennett
fuel screw!!!!
 
Posts: 53
Joined: Mon May 20, 2013 7:39 pm
Location: Port Orchard, WA

Re: Atlas springs on the way

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:33 am

The ride on them is awesome.... for what it is, it rides very soft and mushy.

Problem is I've got this horrific wobble/shake (entire truck, not in the wheel) at 58mph to 68mph. Smooth as glass before and after. Tires have been balanced 4 times... but are going back in tomorrow to have them put on different tires to see if it goes away. As I'm about 2 days from selling the damn truck. I drove it 50 miles today and was about 2 miles from leaving it on the side of the road.
89 RC on shortened 92 diesel frame - NV4500 w/dual disc/4.10s on 37s. - Self built pump, "hot screw", lots of timing, True high volume low pressure lift pump, 62fmw/68/.7gated, 77lpm SAC Inj., Studs/O-rings,- 423/1220 Mustang - 11/16/2013 http://www.TheHungryDiesel.com full line dealer, if you don't see it please ask.
RCCUMMINS89
14mm rotor
 
Posts: 4826
Joined: Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:19 pm
Location: Spirit Lake, ID
Top

Re: Atlas springs on the way

Postby ellis93 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:46 pm

Put the letters out on the tires,add a little contrast to the truck :lol:

Eric have you tried or heard of those bags of balance beads that go in those big tires? Supposedly those are the cats meow for keeping them true. Those things should,in essence, rebalance the tire their in every time it starts spinning.
93 D250 ,5 speed,4.11s,k&n autometer tach pyro trans boost guages,GDS 60mm h1c 14cm,honed 5x10,hplp/reg,1/8 timing,M+H M2 fuel pin, tims cooler tubz
User avatar
ellis93
14mm rotor
 
Posts: 7761
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:16 pm
Location: lucedale,mississippi
Top

Re: Atlas springs on the way

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:13 pm

White letters out? Yea, no. LOL.

We haven't tried equal yet... to be honest, I'm not even sure if it is the tires yet. I'm still running into drive line issues. Currently, I have my pinion angle and t-case angle set at 7 degrees...with a drive line angle of 13 degrees. The t-case, rear axle, and driveline have been 100% rebuilt with less than 100 miles on them. The driveline absolutely fricken howls, ever since I put in the 80. I just jacked up the rear of the truck and drove it with the tires off the ground.... you can get out and each u joint makes an awful growling sound as it spins...yet both are brand new. Apparently it is too much angle?
89 RC on shortened 92 diesel frame - NV4500 w/dual disc/4.10s on 37s. - Self built pump, "hot screw", lots of timing, True high volume low pressure lift pump, 62fmw/68/.7gated, 77lpm SAC Inj., Studs/O-rings,- 423/1220 Mustang - 11/16/2013 http://www.TheHungryDiesel.com full line dealer, if you don't see it please ask.
RCCUMMINS89
14mm rotor
 
Posts: 4826
Joined: Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:19 pm
Location: Spirit Lake, ID
Top

Re: Atlas springs on the way

Postby dpuckett » Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:50 pm

Balancing Beads were the only thing that would work on a dually I had many years ago. THey are the only way to go. Shops dont care for them, as its another 50-60k mi before you come back to get tires rebalanced, lol.
His- 93 W250 club cab LE, auto to Getrag conversion, piston lift pump, 3.54 LSD. 400k+
Hers- 04 QC 4x4. Built auto, Triple Dog, Air Dog. Funny Round truck that aint so quiet.
dpuckett
14mm rotor
 
Posts: 2196
Joined: Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:33 pm
Location: Perryville MO
Top

Re: Atlas springs on the way

Postby ellis93 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:06 pm

Yeah I hear you Eric......ricer diesel, black,black,black,.......chrome
:lol:

Well it's just a suggestion,throw those beads in and forget about them
93 D250 ,5 speed,4.11s,k&n autometer tach pyro trans boost guages,GDS 60mm h1c 14cm,honed 5x10,hplp/reg,1/8 timing,M+H M2 fuel pin, tims cooler tubz
User avatar
ellis93
14mm rotor
 
Posts: 7761
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:16 pm
Location: lucedale,mississippi
Top

Re: Atlas springs on the way

Postby PToombs » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:34 pm

I put the beads in my H2 wheels when I put the new used tires on. It seems to ride ok, I don't notice any vibration from them. The great thing is I don't have to take them someplace to be balanced, just pour in the beads and blow it up! 8)
pete

Just enough power to break everything behind the crankshaft.
User avatar
PToombs
14mm rotor
 
Posts: 11367
Joined: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:13 pm
Location: Syracuse NY. Snow central!
Top

Re: Atlas springs on the way

Postby DMan1198 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:58 pm

I have the same type of vibration on my 4th gen. Only vibrates between 120 and 150. Before and after it's smooth. A while back I was talking to a guy who said it could be my pinion. If you were to take a dial indicator and put it on the output of your t-case, and move the driveshaft up and down you may find movement
Ducati- professional nap taker, and thread derailer extraordinaire
Brownie: 80 dodge heavy half. Ghost cummins under the hood, and some sinister plans
The Roo Hunter: 93 w250, lifted, 2 whistle machines, and a bunch of other go fast goodies, uhh..... not there yet
Jaeger: 12 ram 3500. Lifted, exhausted, and fed an excessive quantity of air
The Huntress: 02 Jetta TDI. No muffler, egr, horsepower
DMan1198
14mm rotor
 
Posts: 2254
Joined: Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:26 am
Location: Slave Lake, Alberta
Top

Re: Atlas springs on the way

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:04 pm

It's not gonna get any tighter, even put in a special bearing on the rear of the case.

My axle guy apparently can't find a measurement..... Just measured my angles.......Driveline angle is at 15 degrees.... case yoke is at 6 degrees downward....pinion angle is at 10 degrees (WTF!). Now here is the kicker.... my case angle is double of the maximum recommended u joint angle. So do I drop the pinion angle to parallel and say run it. Otherwise I have to run a CV shaft/joint set up.

Sh!t is getting retardedly expensive again... Stupid power is getting old.
89 RC on shortened 92 diesel frame - NV4500 w/dual disc/4.10s on 37s. - Self built pump, "hot screw", lots of timing, True high volume low pressure lift pump, 62fmw/68/.7gated, 77lpm SAC Inj., Studs/O-rings,- 423/1220 Mustang - 11/16/2013 http://www.TheHungryDiesel.com full line dealer, if you don't see it please ask.
RCCUMMINS89
14mm rotor
 
Posts: 4826
Joined: Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:19 pm
Location: Spirit Lake, ID
Top

Re: Atlas springs on the way

Postby Fred_M1010 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:28 am

It looks like the rear spring eye on the front springs will bottom out against the frame on compression.
So you might need longer shackles.
-91.5 W250
User avatar
Fred_M1010
fuel screw!!!!
 
Posts: 139
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:48 am
Location: Sweden
Top

Re: Atlas springs on the way

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:41 am

Correct, it does look very close.... I was actually surprised when I flexed it out a little bit (I don't off road) and I compressed one side by about 18" (tire was almost bottomed out in the fender) and I was just beginning to make contact.
89 RC on shortened 92 diesel frame - NV4500 w/dual disc/4.10s on 37s. - Self built pump, "hot screw", lots of timing, True high volume low pressure lift pump, 62fmw/68/.7gated, 77lpm SAC Inj., Studs/O-rings,- 423/1220 Mustang - 11/16/2013 http://www.TheHungryDiesel.com full line dealer, if you don't see it please ask.
RCCUMMINS89
14mm rotor
 
Posts: 4826
Joined: Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:19 pm
Location: Spirit Lake, ID
Top

Re: Atlas springs on the way

Postby PToombs » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:21 pm

RCCUMMINS89 wrote: Stupid power is getting old.


I don't believe you, I've never heard of such a thing! :lol:
pete

Just enough power to break everything behind the crankshaft.
User avatar
PToombs
14mm rotor
 
Posts: 11367
Joined: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:13 pm
Location: Syracuse NY. Snow central!
Top

Re: Atlas springs on the way

Postby DMan1198 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:48 pm

I'm with Pete on this one
Ducati- professional nap taker, and thread derailer extraordinaire
Brownie: 80 dodge heavy half. Ghost cummins under the hood, and some sinister plans
The Roo Hunter: 93 w250, lifted, 2 whistle machines, and a bunch of other go fast goodies, uhh..... not there yet
Jaeger: 12 ram 3500. Lifted, exhausted, and fed an excessive quantity of air
The Huntress: 02 Jetta TDI. No muffler, egr, horsepower
DMan1198
14mm rotor
 
Posts: 2254
Joined: Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:26 am
Location: Slave Lake, Alberta
Top

Re: Atlas springs on the way

Postby PToombs » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:43 pm

By the way, I still think it looks pretty bad ass Eric. ;)
pete

Just enough power to break everything behind the crankshaft.
User avatar
PToombs
14mm rotor
 
Posts: 11367
Joined: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:13 pm
Location: Syracuse NY. Snow central!
Top

PreviousNext

Return to Chassis

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests

cron