500+ 12mm VE fuel only

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Re: 500+ 12mm VE fuel only

Postby CumminsPower59 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:58 am

I'm thinking if you could somehow plumb it in, kind of like nitrous or something, but be able to get a f'ton of volume...a welding 02 cylinder would be a good place to start...even if you could just get a small percentage, still better than none.
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Re: 500+ 12mm VE fuel only

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:00 am

LOL......it'd be like throwing in a double correction factor.
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Re: 500+ 12mm VE fuel only

Postby DMan1198 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:15 pm

What if you used the liquid stuff, like in rockets. Then you'd get the benefits of a cooler air charge, and more oxygen
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Re: 500+ 12mm VE fuel only

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:33 pm

OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH..............I like it when you talk dirty. :lol:



I totally butchered another man's thread............AGAIN....... Sorry :oops:
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Re: 500+ 12mm VE fuel only

Postby DMan1198 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:59 pm

Admittedly that did happen, but I think I probably started the decline with my question about the cam plate
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Re: 500+ 12mm VE fuel only

Postby BC847 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:16 pm

In all seriousness, I like to think that, with some upgrades and weird (relatively) tuning I've been recently messing with, I may just get a little closer this year.

Sure hope it doesn't Image
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Re: 500+ 12mm VE fuel only

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:25 pm

I was once told by someone that I tend to agree with (rare I know)...... that 400hp on a ve pump, the engine feels the same as 600hp on a p pump. It's only a matter of time, but think of it this way.... the more wore out it is, the more fuel and air you can jam into it. :mrgreen:
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Re: 500+ 12mm VE fuel only

Postby DMan1198 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:45 pm

BC847 wrote:In all seriousness, I like to think that, with some upgrades and weird (relatively) tuning I've been recently messing with, I may just get a little closer this year.

Sure hope it doesn't Image

I'm sure everyone hopes it doesn't do that
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Re: 500+ 12mm VE fuel only

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:53 pm

x2
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Re: 500+ 12mm VE fuel only

Postby PToombs » Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:08 pm

I thought Bill had done 505 on fuel, but I wasn't sure and don't have the time to go searching for the info on it.
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Re: 500+ 12mm VE fuel only

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:22 pm

With his 14.....
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Re: 500+ 12mm VE fuel only

Postby JD91 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:38 am

Ill be doing a little more tuning today and over the weekend as well. Hoping to run my fuel screw in a bit and gonna skip a tooth.
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Re: 500+ 12mm VE fuel only

Postby 1STGENFARMBOY » Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:47 pm

DMan1198 wrote:
BC847 wrote:In all seriousness, I like to think that, with some upgrades and weird (relatively) tuning I've been recently messing with, I may just get a little closer this year.

Sure hope it doesn't Image

I'm sure everyone hopes it doesn't do that




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Re: 500+ 12mm VE fuel only

Postby BC847 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:28 pm

Ah, shucks, It's all smoke a mirrors you know.
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Re: 500+ 12mm VE fuel only

Postby Stomp » Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:14 pm

Well I just so happen to have a 12mm pump hanging on my old Fist Gen right now so count me in. Doesnt mean very much because back in 2004-2005 when I ditched the 12mm I was only able to coach 439hp out of it with fuel only. Of course I used that head and rotor and built a brand new pump and was able to increase the output by 40cc of fuel and then I never ever put it on to see how it did. Now is my chance.

I have a water leak coming out of the top of my head so I have to fix it first before I can even start playing again. I have a good used head just sitting at a friends shop so all I have to do is make the time to go and pick it up and fix the old girl, but its been sitting for what 2+years now. 2 motors later and now a leaking head I might have put 100 miles on this motor before I parked it again after finishing the twins on my 06.

Oh well all I really need is some motivation to get it back up and running. So keep up the good work guys I might have a coal or two started under me now. :bom:

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