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Bracket racing ?

Postby 92 D/UNIT » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:38 pm

Does anybody hear do any bracket racing with there trucks? Im planning on getting into it this next season and have a some questions.
what gear ratio is best a 3.54 or 3.07?
what drag radials or slicks do you guys use?
is there a 16 tire that is about 29"
i see a lot of 15" slicks, does anyone make a 15" 8 lug wheel?
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Postby KTA » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:45 pm

I bracket raced old yellow for awhile, even ended up 3rd in the national points in DHRA one year. My truck sucked as a racer though, heavy 2wd and stick made for inconsistent launches. I was fast on the tree and had the ponies to fender race even the sub 12second trucks on the big end. That is how I did it, not pretty but it worked. :-)
If you have a 4wd auto just launch in 4wd at say 5psi and manual shift it and you should be super consistent. I ran radial 235 85r16 michelin LTX's and they hooked good and consistent at 30psi when I had a single turbo. When I went twins I couldn't race it anymore as I could never get any kind of pedictible launch. I went from consistent 2.2-2.3 60fts to 2.5-3.2's and that won't work for bracket racing even if you are killer on the tree and a good judge on the fender. :roll:
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Postby Richie O » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:51 pm

Have a looksy. If you want to bracket race get an auto for sure.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lscux4doFTI




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Postby 92 D/UNIT » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:15 pm

What do you mean by good judge on the fender?

will a one legger hook up on the track? or do i have to run a locker?
also do most stay in 3rd or do you go into OD? seems like 3rd would be out of the curve by the time you went through the traps. :?
also id be running the 92 d 250 in my sig
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Postby soggy » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:20 pm

If its a two wheel drive you will need slicks and a locker to get a good launch, I shift into OD before i get to the 1/8- you may have to get a custom 8 lug 15in
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Postby Richie O » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:28 pm

If you saw the video in the above reply from me there is a black and grey 89 4x4 with headgear running me. He is the one that spun the whole track. He has an open rear and was in 2 wheel peel. ( street tires ) With some real good slicks you might be fine with an open rear but a locker will help lots. If your running 1/8th mile you may be able to run just 3rd gear depending on how many revs you are running. 1/4 mile you will have to run od for sure. I have bought 15 inch 8 lug wheels in the past. I had them on a chevy with a full float 14 bolt. They were just a black spoke ( nascar style ).
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Re: Bracket racing ?

Postby BC847 » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:45 pm

92 D/UNIT wrote:Does anybody hear do any bracket racing with there trucks? Im planning on getting into it this next season and have a some questions.
what gear ratio is best a 3.54 or 3.07?
what drag radials or slicks do you guys use?
is there a 16 tire that is about 29"
i see a lot of 15" slicks, does anyone make a 15" 8 lug wheel?

You might consider picking the eighth or the quarter and build for it.

- With a good A518, 1st thru 3rd works in the 8th with the 3.54. As others have said, you'll need OD in the quarter unless you just want to see the 4k tach kiss the peg.

- It's my experience that, a 16"x29" tire with over 8 or so inches of width are very tough to find.

I run my mess in 4WD at the track (20~25psig launch). I've attempted a couple of 2WD passes (on all-terrains) and found out REAL quick the challenges a 2WD truck has traction-wise.
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Postby KTA » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:19 pm

92 D/UNIT wrote:What do you mean by good judge on the fender?

will a one legger hook up on the track? or do i have to run a locker?
also do most stay in 3rd or do you go into OD? seems like 3rd would be out of the curve by the time you went through the traps. :?
also id be running the 92 d 250 in my sig


I mean in bracket racing assuming it all goes down right the 1st one across the line wins.... assuming you don't break out. My racing style requires judging if I am going to quick or not babying it to the 1000ft mark running door to door and then put a fender length on them at the end for the win. I always dialed about .5second slower than I could run consistently for a buffer zone, then depending on how I felt the run was I either put the fender on them or let them go if I felt it was fast and hope they broke out. Lucky for me most people with good setups run their number and don't play games like I did so I knew pretty easy if I treed them to put the fender on them, and if they got me I had better let them go a bit and hope they broke out or I was going to break out myself chasing them down. Racing a crappy heavy 2wd stick truck is an art. :P
As to will a peg leg race. Not really I tried it and on some tracks it was fine others I could one wheel peel through 5th gear. I think most drag strips don't hook street tires as hard as the street does. If you decide to limited slip it DON"T use the factory Dana Track lock!!! It can't take launches! I blew the pider gears up in mine the 1st pass!!! I had to cut some old fence t-posts the right length and jam between the gears to get home. Its not fun driving 200+miles having to shake the steering wheel side to side from time to time to get the rear end to lock back up and start pulling again! That was the last time I ever ran that POS DANA 70. One pinion and a set of spiders was enough. :roll:
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Postby c12h26 » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:39 pm

On my truck i run cragar black D window wheels they are 15x8 heres a link http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CRR-3425880SL/
with 315/60-15 Mickey Thompson ET Street Radial Tires,and for gears keep the 3.54 and use OD, best 60ft i could get with 3.07 was only a 1.88 so with 3.54 your 60ft should be much better
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Postby c12h26 » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:49 pm

heres a pic of the tire and wheel
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Postby Richie O » Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:31 pm

c12h26 wrote:heres a pic of the tire and wheel
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Thats the exact rim I ran on my chevy. They were real inexpensive also. ( atleast they were 10 years ago ).
1989 W250 727, 3.07 L/S, S300, P/S Intercooler, Stans exaust, Pump adjustments, 127k miles,297 hp
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Postby 92 D/UNIT » Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:24 pm

Hey c12h26 how much NOS are you using? and and what size jet? do you just hit a button or is it controlled by the throttle?
thanks
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