Dodge Twin Stick NP205, & Getrag 360

[ahale2772]

^ yeah I figured it would not be an enjoyable experience, the ruler picture would be much apreciated thanks.

ps, is it only the rail closest to the input that you grind?

[therabbittree]

Yes the rail closest to the input. I took pictures of both new JB rails here :
Short Rail

Long Rail

Short rail end

Short Rail middle

short rail detents


I hope this helps you.

Thanks,
Deo

[therabbittree]

Its cutting off my pictures.. argh . I saw amention of this probelm in the Crossover steering post...but no mention of what board setting fixed it.. any ideas.. I tried playing with a bunch of the settings argh.. I wish the bottom of the board had a sliding view rnge liek the right side..
any help appreciated.
Thanks,
Deo

[ahale2772]

THANKS!!!!

yes they helped alot, I can see them fine, i think, maybe they are cut off a bit to the right but all the important stuff is there.

thanks again, I owe you one, ill be going by these when i grind them tomorro

[Richie O]

Its cutting off my pictures.. argh . I saw amention of this probelm in the Crossover steering post...but no mention of what board setting fixed it.. any ideas.. I tried playing with a bunch of the settings argh.. I wish the bottom of the board had a sliding view rnge liek the right side..
any help appreciated.
Thanks,
Deo

Hey, I got into your account and changed the board style. Did that fix your problem?

[therabbittree]

yes it did!!. I appreciate that! lol
FYI for any one else having issues...The Serenity setting for Board style cleared the problem up.
Thanks,
Deo

[PToombs]

I hate Serenity, I'm wound too tight for it.

[ahale2772]

got mine done! thanks again Deo, those measurements worked perfect. I ended up checking those with ones I found on pirate 4x4.

final measurements I used (just grinding the short rail)
grind 3/8 of an inch off the end of the rail and 7/16 off of the middle part of the rail, keeping the same slope on both.

I also fully rebuilt my 205 with all new berings and seals, that was not as easy.
i was in a rush so putting it back together quickly turned into a "hurry the rtv is drying!" type situation. but after everything i got it done.

heres some pictures...

all the way down to a clean case...


rebuilt and ready to go back in.... (I used the trans jack this time, sprianed my hand last time I tried to muscle it in witout )


what I made my linkages out of: stock crossbar linkage cut in half and sleeved with a piece of tubing, worked well (and I can still get both linkages off while in the truck..they arnt pretty but again i rushed BTW the crossbar is made out of the stuff that wolveriens skeleton is made of, I must have ruined 15 drill bits trying to drill them out



and my crazy linkages.... I got the heims and threaded links premade from school, so even if they are massive and overly robust... they work well


and of course... I had to throw a clear pto cover on.. funny thing was, once I had evberything hooked up I had an issue with selecting rear axle low, I could see that the synchro thing was not fully engaging on the output synchro so I know i had an issue, it was just a heim that needed some clearancing but...the cover helped me see that... kinda cool


I'm very happy with how it all came out, I found out there were some thrust washers in my mainshaft assembly (input/output) that were almost worn throught, it solved my 5th gear vibration that I was having...very happy about that.

the shifthing in and out of gears is very smooth and the detents are clearly felt (no searching for gears any more)... also like Deo said, you can slide rear axle/front axle in and out of gear at any time, but if course you cant put front in low and rear in high (or visa versa)

[therabbittree]

looks good..only you didn't paint the adapter or th eouput seat retainer lol... I bought a seal kit for mine but didn't use it.. yet.... lol where did you get your rebuild kit?...I want to get rid of all the ujoint straps and go with u bolts ..debating on drilling them out or buying the right u bolt yokes...
Thanks,

Deo

[ahale2772]

Deo,

yeah I got lazy painting stuff, hard to justify making stuff super nice when the truck itself is most accuratly described as a bucket of rot

I got my seal kit and bearing kit from Zbag, it was a very complete kit but had the same issue as the last kit i bought from them... the front bearing support. adaptor (yeah the big one I didnt paint ) gasket is wrong, as it was on the last kit I had , I am guessing it was designed for the smaller input shaft/bearing.... funny thing is all the bearings were correct....

and yeah, i want to go to the u-bolt style as well, Zbag didnt carry the drilled out yoke and told me that "they" stopped selling the ubolt style straps... so I bought new strap style ones, I think the kit was 5$

i think advanced sells the straps...but i like giving my money to places like zbag, they have treated me right so far

[therabbittree]

I think there is a u bolt kit also available from napa or spicer /dana?..not sure of the part #..etc
Thanks,
Deo

[ahale2772]

I think drilling them out is simple, but i dont recall if the stock 1410 yokes have the flat surface behind so that a nut can propperly seat

[PToombs]

Ahhhh, Zbag. The wonderful people who told me that when they rebuild a Getrag they never need anything other than .005 and .010 shims, so that's what they put in the shim kits.

[ahale2772]

^ yeah i wouldnt say their advice is top notch but the parts are good.

they told me when i was rebuilding my rag that i would not be needing the 5th gear synchro...because they dont go bad.... it was toast