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This is kinda wierd about nv4500 in 1992

Postby roxxx » Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:16 pm

I stumbled arcoss this info on couple of sites

NV4500: General Information:
In 1992 Dodge and General Motors trucks started appearing in showrooms with one of the most versatile transmissions ever to be offered in a production truck: the New Venture Gear 4500. General Motors applications include it as an option in 3/4 and 1-ton full size trucks. Dodge standard duty units come in trucks with the 5.2 and 5.9 liter engine, while Dodge HD versions are used with Cummins diesels and V10’s.
Be kinda nice to find a nv4500 int he tunnel
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Postby KTA » Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:58 am

Dodge did not use the NV4500 behind the diesel until 1994 with the new body style trucks. 1st gens with factory NV4500's are an urban legend.
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Postby Begle1 » Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:12 am

KTA wrote:Dodge did not use the NV4500 behind the diesel until 1994 with the new body style trucks. 1st gens with factory NV4500's are an urban legend.


Urban legends like manuals with 3.07's or 9mm injector models with intercoolers, or urban legends like Mama Cass choking on a ham sandwich? :lol:
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Postby CAJUN 93 » Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:19 am

interesting enough that the mopar parts catalog for 92 and 93 ad series trucks list a nv4500 in both 2wd and 4wd. seems mopar doesnt even know what they produced.

altough ive never seen a 1st gen with a factory installed 4500, if someone has one they think is please pm me with the vin # to confirm.

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Postby KTA » Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:48 am

Actually I know of one factory ordered 89 with a 5spd and 3.07 gears. It was a special order and required the chrysler regional reps intervention to get it built. That was however simply a diffrent order of already in production parts. The HD nv4500 was not in Chryslers lineup until 93 and only for the 94 trucks.
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Postby RumbleFish » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:37 pm

I thought you could get a girly version light duty NV4500 in a gasser in like 92-93ish?
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Postby Philip » Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:57 pm

The 93 dealer litature I have shows the 93's having lockup converters on the auto equiped trucks. To bad its lieing. :(

The 3:07 was a optional rear axle for the 3/4 stick shift trucks for 93 also. It was NA on dually's. But I have a dually with them.
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The only reason i ask is i found it on advanced adapters

Postby roxxx » Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:43 am

The only reason I ask is I found it on their web site and on impacts but anyways I was just wondering http://high-impact.net/transmission_and ... nformation:
Can’t find it on the advanced site but pretty sure i saw it there to
here is a good fyi for the nv4500 conversion http://www.advanceadapters.com/NVManual/main/getrag.pdf
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4 Inch lift
Bilsteins shocks 5125
VE moderately molested
Dana 80
ultra wheel rims Type 164
ASA pipe BHAF 19037
Outerwears prefilter
A A nv4500
South bend Flywheel and clutch 13125-OK

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Postby Begle1 » Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:36 am

RumbleFish wrote:I thought you could get a girly version light duty NV4500 in a gasser in like 92-93ish?


Oooh, good point.
I know that the gasoline automatic trucks had lock-up 518's when the Diesel trucks only had non-lock-up 518's.
It'd make sense if they put NV4500's in gassers before Diesels?

I know about the 5-speed 3.07's... I was getting at just because something was never made doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

In the AMC community, every once in a while a car comes along that Johnny Cash wouldn't drive.
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Postby CAJUN 93 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:10 am

the light duty versions of the nv transmission are 2500 and 3500 not 4500. totally different trans.

also, i dont remember my 1st gen gas burners having lockup on the 500,518, and 999's. i may be wrong on that though.

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Postby Ace » Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:35 am

CAJUN 93 wrote:the light duty versions of the nv transmission are 2500 and 3500 not 4500. totally different trans.

"Totally" is the key word here. New Venture had to re-engineer the things so much for the 5.9 they actually ended up spec'ing the Syntorq fluid (as opposed to the typical synchromesh or ATF fluids used in most manuals of this type, including the 'Rag) to compensate for the increased loads being generated towing heavy behind the Cummins. They did not last long at all under those conditions until the fluid change was instituted.

Kinda gives you a little perspective on the Getrag - NV comapro debate, if you get my drift.
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Postby MUDDY » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:54 am

the nv 3500 is the box for the half tons. [and jeeps]

nv4500 was offered in the 3/4 ton and 1 ton gassers. [92 and 93] i had one, a 93 3/4 ton.

the 518 behind the gassers had a lockup. had one in a 90 3/4 ton.

the nv4500 was offered behind the 1st gen cummins in the last batch of 93s. a friend had a real late 93 [he bought new] and he had the 4500 in his. i havent seen any other w/ my own eyes other than that one tho. but there was a thread on the tdr where others have either owned or witnessed late 93s they know came from the factory w/ the 4500
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Postby dpuckett » Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:43 pm

My 93 FSM has a section for both Getrag 360 (diesel) and NV4500 (gas) manual transmission rebuilds. I read somewhere that they went with the NV4500 behind the diesels in 94, as the diesels were a known quantity by then, and the NVs were cheaper to get and repair. I dont know this to be true, as I have not talked to mysteryman about this, and I wasnt into this stuff at the time, but it does make sense to me as a deifinite possibility.

MUDDY- what style starter does your buddy have? Didnt they switch sides of the engine with the new generation?

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Postby MUDDY » Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:13 am

daniel,

2nd gen is still on left side.

dunno if the late 1st gen w/ 4500 is a different starter. he sold that 93 to a friend of his out of the area. ill loook next time it comes back to this area.
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