getrag

[gobcumminstruck]

im new please bear with me. i have an 1991 dodge w250 4wd with getrag i m in rebuilting it an run into an problem i know the anwer but want to be 100% sure if m right. here it is if the counter shaft bearing race spins in caes(trans housin), the case is shot?

[gobcumminstruck]

sorry about the spelling and grammer not my strong point

[ellis93]

Look and see if it runs up and down in its bore. I've patched up a few and had my personal one apart,all spun in the bore.

[gobcumminstruck]

ok what started this is it was hard to shift then not at all. so i got lookin around at cost and how and saw ur post were u did yours and thouight i could do mine what i end up replacein is input and 3/4 sync hub and rebuilt kit from zbag. and as i start to put back toghter i run into this probelm. ill check on that i just now i had it trun up puttin race in and lay it down it came out so i check it torrow. how u patched yours up or recommendation on fixin it

[gobcumminstruck]

well it dont have up and down play i find some stuff to hold the race in place hope for the best. and question ellis93 wend i put 5th/rev syco hub on which way it goes u said deep side to rev isthat the side that has the dips in it that looks like it lets oil to the needle bearings? i try but ways and i cant get it back up there to put the snap ring that holds the hub on

[ellis93]

Looking over my posts in my rebuild,that's the way it goes. If your having issues with the stack up of the gears not allowing room for the snap ring then take it back down and look closely for something not seated.

[gobcumminstruck]

ok thanks i look at it and see.

[gobcumminstruck]

u reckin anybody though off or try machine the input shaft out to put an race in it for the pocket/ft bearing on mainshaft? wend it wears out in there, or have an bearing failure

[PToombs]

It's been thought of many times. The thing that stops everyone is the fact that the outer diameter is too thin to hold a race in. If you had a shaft custom made with a thicker outside diameter to hold the race it would work. It's a great idea too, if the bearing goes bad, you can replace the race and not the shaft like we do now.

[gobcumminstruck]

Ok it it be nice it just sucks havin buy an shaft cause of a bearing failure

[gobcumminstruck]

ok im bout ready throw trans in creek and shoot me. i measure the trans like ellis93 outline in his rebuilt thread of trans and wend i bolt the adapter/ pieces that tranfer case bolts to, its tight to trun shafts. my measuremwents is: mainshaft .250 for race protrued from case and counterbore for mainshaft is .255 subtract got .005. add .005 got .010. coutershaft/ cluster shaft, race protruded .050, counterbore on adapter/ pieces that tranfer case bolts to, .103 subratc got .053 add .005 got .058. im right???? i have give some effort to trun, it should trun with out to much effort right????

[ellis93]

It'll be stiff to turn,you've preloaded it

[gobcumminstruck]

So i done it right? Cause i just tok shimes out and it truns better. i know wend i had mainshaft out it was touch to trun case of the 1st and 2nd syncos ther rubber lookin stuff not cluth like mataerl stuff i just got done putin breaings, input, sycos and 3/4 hub in. im just nervous bout it i dont want go down the road and it go all to sthi on me and all that work foe nothin.

[gobcumminstruck]

ok got trans in truck last night and started it up see how it does and it seem to do fine but5 gear makes sound noise its like an raaaaa or wrrrrrr noise i dont know to explan it. i cant driv it yet dont hav tranfer case or drvieshafts in yet. side note i put an new 5th gear on mainshaft if that helps i was dumb and didnt have tool on good and it chip some teeth so i replace it. and i think i have it about an quart to full. i think i got 6 in it instad of 5 qrts. kind ok and spare of the mont hay i wonder kind of ideals.