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Postby ellis93 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:05 am

Looking for options on them,who's got them where. Sticking with a single disc in conversation if we could. I'm not gonna deal with a huge amount of pedal pressure :lol:
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Re: clutch time

Postby Hansen01 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:56 am

I've got a 500horse single from south bend and its held probably 6 pulls and just barely smelt after the last one. I think its pretty smooth yet still locks nice
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Re: clutch time

Postby ellis93 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:16 am

My inner cheap a$$ is flaring up after checking those out......they'd better be shifting my rag for me for that kind of money. I even looked at so valiar (sp) clutches and I didn't realize they where as high as they are.
I think I'm gonna pull mine out and have it reworked. It's already got the ceramic button disc in it so my pressure plate has got to be weak :scratch:
Reckon I'll start the phone calls :lol: burn up the lines till I find a place to do like I want 8)
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Re: clutch time

Postby BILTIT » Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:21 am

Don't look at the prices for dual discs then!! They hurt.
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Re: clutch time

Postby cmann250 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:22 am

January 29, 2013
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ellis93 wrote:turned in the power screw on my truck at lunch today......holy chit :shock: somethings gonna break :pale: I can feel it coming.

Your clutch called. He put in his two weeks notice.

Hmmm.... :lol:
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Re: clutch time

Postby ellis93 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:24 pm

cmann250 wrote:January 29, 2013
cmann250 wrote:
ellis93 wrote:turned in the power screw on my truck at lunch today......holy chit :shock: somethings gonna break :pale: I can feel it coming.

Your clutch called. He put in his two weeks notice.

Hmmm.... :lol:

Yeah yeah :finger: :lol:
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Re: clutch time

Postby ellis93 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:28 pm

BILTIT wrote:Don't look at the prices for dual discs then!! They hurt.

You ain't kidding....iirc those start out at like 1200 or so.....crazy. I can buy an E-Z pedal for 500$ for a semi :roll: but these truck command 1k plus in price for the same design. I smell bullschit!
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Re: clutch time

Postby BILTIT » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:48 pm

Yup, i paid 1500 CAD for mine. :cry:
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Postby cmann250 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:51 pm

ellis93 wrote:You ain't kidding....iirc those start out at like 1200 or so.....crazy. I can buy an E-Z pedal for 500$ for a semi :roll: but these truck command 1k plus in price for the same design. I smell bullschit!

There in lies the problem. People want to make a 13" clutch hold semi-like power. I don't know how big a semi clutch is, but I bet it's bigger than 13" :lol:
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Re: clutch time

Postby oldestof11 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:52 pm

Typically, 13" and bigger. The biggest problem of adapting them to our trucks is input size and spline count. They can also get away with slightly less material and more clamping force as they are typically only used to get the truck rolling. If they had to hit the clutch every time, with less gear spacing, then I can see clutches being a big issue.

IMHO, if you are doing a lot of towing, I will quote Jason Sands (jqmile). "Medium duty torque requires medium duty transmissions."
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Re: clutch time

Postby ellis93 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:55 pm

Well,reckon this will just turn to schit in a short time or would it last towing
Check out this item I found on eBay:

End time: Mar 17, 2013 5:27:37 AM

Item: SouthBend Clutch Dodge Cummins Diesel Getrag/NV4500 5 speed 88-04 350hp #0090

URL: http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav= ... 0594172677

Alt URL: http://www.ebay.com/itm/SouthBend-Clutc ... 0594172677

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Re: clutch time

Postby PToombs » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:59 pm

Caleb, it lasted a month, quit picking on him! :lol:

Ellis, I have the Valair 650 hp one. It's too grabby for towing. I never gave that a thought when I got it, I just wanted a clutch I wasn't going to burn up with my target horsepower. Forward isn't too bad, but backing up sucks ass!
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Re: clutch time

Postby oldestof11 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:28 pm

ellis93 wrote:Well,reckon this will just turn to schit in a short time or would it last towing
Check out this item I found on eBay:

End time: Mar 17, 2013 5:27:37 AM

Item: SouthBend Clutch Dodge Cummins Diesel Getrag/NV4500 5 speed 88-04 350hp #0090

URL: http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav= ... 0594172677

Alt URL: http://www.ebay.com/itm/SouthBend-Clutc ... 0594172677

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Run. 12-1/4" clutch.
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Re: clutch time

Postby ellis93 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:33 pm

Damn,well who's got a replacement 13" that'll give good service?
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Postby PToombs » Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:36 pm

ellis93 wrote:Damn,well who's got a replacement 13" that'll give good service?


My wife can probably hook you up with something! :mrgreen:
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