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Re: The time has come. New trans time.

Postby ellis93 » Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:26 pm

I'm fixing to swap to it, I want to see how it does in the 82
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Re: The time has come. New trans time.

Postby cmann250 » Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:02 pm

cmann250 wrote:I still have one nagging issue though. Has anyone heard of direct clutch feed restrictors being used in a diesel application? I have a hydraulic chirp when I turn left. It makes perfect sense because the direct feed port is on the left (IIRC) and all the fluid would be falling away from it during a turn. Reasonable theory? I'd rather not pull the VB when everything is working so well if that's not it.


I'm still having that problem. It's a hydraulic chirp usually followed by a sudden neutral condition lasting 2 seconds tops and then it grabs again. It still only happens when turning left. The chirp went away for a few days and came back, but the sudden neutral has persisted.

I have the VB out now and did not find any restrictors in the case. I can't swap VBs because my other does not have a shift kit and it is not known to be good either. I'll reassemble it and if it still does it, it'll remain a mystery until it bugs me enough to ear into it again.
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Re: The time has come. New trans time.

Postby ellis93 » Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:30 pm

I'd add a little fluid and see if it goes away,if not then look elsewhere
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Re: The time has come. New trans time.

Postby PToombs » Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:32 pm

Send Tom a PM or if you have his number call him.
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Re: The time has come. New trans time.

Postby cmann250 » Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:01 pm

PToombs wrote:Send Tom a PM or if you have his number call him.

I have the number he had when he was here in Indiana, but I don't know if he's changed it to a Tennessee number or not. I guess I'll find out.
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Re: The time has come. New trans time.

Postby txs » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:08 am

Caleb, just found this thread addition, I don't remember ever having seen a circuit restrictor in a case, the pressure feeds from pump through case into the vb. Any restricting needs done can and is done by the dozens of holes in the separator plate and valve body. A pressurized circuit don't care which way g force comes from. Sounds like suction side problem, check all vb, transfer plate, case interfaces for nicks or dents. lower body to filter and lower body to plate interface also.
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Re: The time has come. New trans time.

Postby txs » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:38 am

thread addendum,just went back and read first couple pages of this epistle, you working on 727, so forget that about lower body check, you should have spacer between the filter and the transfer plate, that's where i'd look first, it don't even hurt anything to use very sparing amount of silicone sealer between the spacer and the transfer plate.
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Re: The time has come. New trans time.

Postby DodgeFreak » Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:06 am

He swapped over to a 518 trans.
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Re: The time has come. New trans time.

Postby cmann250 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:40 pm

Tom, come back to Indiana please! :lol:

I do have a 518. I have had the VB in and out now 3 times since I originally installed the trans. I've never disassembled the VB. So it sounds like you're telling me that something inside the VB could be misaligned? I'll have to check that.

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Re: The time has come. New trans time.

Postby PToombs » Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:20 pm

Toldja ;)
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Re: The time has come. New trans time.

Postby DodgeFreak » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:10 am

which shift kit did you use?
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Re: The time has come. New trans time.

Postby cmann250 » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:05 pm

DodgeFreak wrote:which shift kit did you use?


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Re: The time has come. New trans time.

Postby DodgeFreak » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:27 pm

Did that one not replace check balls??? I've done one of each and I can't remember if it was the diesel or the hd2 that you had to replace check balls and a separator plate
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Re: The time has come. New trans time.

Postby cmann250 » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:41 pm

DodgeFreak wrote:Did that one not replace check balls??? I've done one of each and I can't remember if it was the diesel or the hd2 that you had to replace check balls and a separator plate

I replaced one check ball with their "cherry bomb". I think I changed both plates. I'd have to look at the instructions again.
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Re: The time has come. New trans time.

Postby cmann250 » Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:29 pm

Ellis is on to something. Last week I checked fluid and it was reading full on the dip stick. I added some and was "overfull" but it does not chirp or disengage nearly as often. However the dip stick and tube are from my old 727. Follow along my wild train of thought, if you can. :lol:

The 727 dip stick would not account for the fluid the lower VB displaces. The lower VB (and the spacer for the deep pan) would push the true "full" mark up the dipstick. The reading over full would mean that in reality it is just full.

Logical?
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