a518 atf+4 or other?

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Re: a518 atf+4 or other?

Postby DodgeFreak » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:34 pm

blue hot, orange ground
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Re: a518 atf+4 or other?

Postby IrishChamp » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:56 pm

Ok, so it's the 2 wire plug, orange and blue wire, going vertically up on the top of the trans a little behind the front band adjustment?
I found this description:

The plug pointing straight up just above the shifter linkage is the OD plug.
Connect one wire to a +12 when the key is on (I don't need to do this because one wire is already hot right?) and the other wire to a switch mounted somewhere convienient on the dash and then from the switch to a solid ground.

Turn on the switch and the OD solenoid will pull up and you have OD.
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Re: a518 atf+4 or other?

Postby oldestof11 » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:53 pm

Just tap the Orange wire, run from there to a switch, from the switch to a ground.

Even with nearly draining all my fluid, mine still has a pink color to it. Easily seen on the dipstick.

I would guess you knocked the plug loose.
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Re: a518 atf+4 or other?

Postby IrishChamp » Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:39 pm

well damn :(
I cut the orange wire, wired up a switch to it then the other end to the chassis, no luck.
I then cut the plug completely off and wired the blue wire directly to the batteries positive and then the negative through the switch, still no luck. I tested the switch I bought, it works, I tested the ground I chose, it works. So my assumption is that is has to be on the inside of the transmission..... am I missing something here, I believe this was a straight forward and simple task....

Anyone have any suggestions?

There was a red and black wire inside the transmission, I was careful but if I had pinched these somehow, do they have anything to do with OD?

I am messing with the right plug I believe, right above the shifter linkage on the drivers side, behind the front band adjustment, blue wire hot, orange wire ground.

I'm really frustrated and stumped.


looks like the truck is not going on our road trip tomorrow, sadly our other vehicle doesn't have room for bikes and toys.... the wife is gonna be pissed :) grrrrrrr. and the truck actually gets better milage that our other vehicle.
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Re: a518 atf+4 or other?

Postby dazedandconfused » Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:48 pm

Sounds like you need to stop the pan again.
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Re: a518 atf+4 or other?

Postby ellis93 » Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:44 pm

Drop the pan. Bet the soleniod wires are loose or something,couldn't image anything else happening. :scratch:
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Re: a518 atf+4 or other?

Postby IrishChamp » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:00 pm

Thanks very much to everyone, I'll drop the pan next week and let you know what I find.
Trans feels great other than having no OD.
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Re: a518 atf+4 or other?

Postby Sutter1stgen » Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:31 pm

Sorry for the late response. Yes the overlap was more noticeable at low shift (part throttle). Half wasn't as bad, full throttle shifts were pretty smooth.

But after I installed the second spring everything was better
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Re: a518 atf+4 or other?

Postby DodgeFreak » Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:10 pm

Dont drop the pan yet! Put a gauge on the od pressure port and take it for a spin and see if you have any pressure. I had a 92 that would kick od in wired it direct and then decided to put a gauge on it and had 15lbs of pressure. Pulled the od and the piston was cocked in the bore and od burnt up......not saying yours is trashed but its pretty easy to cut the seal if you're not careful.
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Re: a518 atf+4 or other?

Postby IrishChamp » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:16 pm

Where is the od pressure port?
How would I have cut the seal, where is it?
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DodgeFreak wrote:Dont drop the pan yet! Put a gauge on the od pressure port and take it for a spin and see if you have any pressure. I had a 92 that would kick od in wired it direct and then decided to put a gauge on it and had 15lbs of pressure. Pulled the od and the piston was cocked in the bore and od burnt up......not saying yours is trashed but its pretty easy to cut the seal if you're not careful.
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Re: a518 atf+4 or other?

Postby IrishChamp » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:18 pm

Thanks again. Do youhappen to have a part # for the spring?
Sutter1stgen wrote:Sorry for the late response. Yes the overlap was more noticeable at low shift (part throttle). Half wasn't as bad, full throttle shifts were pretty smooth.

But after I installed the second spring everything was better
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Re: a518 atf+4 or other?

Postby Sutter1stgen » Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:26 pm

No I do not. But suncoast carries them, and BD has you install it per their valve body install. So I'd venture to say that a call to ether one of them would get you taken care of.

But you can do a test to see if you have overlap, which you should try first. With the rear of your truck secure on jack stands put your truck in drive and take let it go through the gears how it would when you feel the rough 3rd engagement. Have a friend watch the rear tires perpendicular to them( or rotate positions with the friend). If you guys notice any slowing of the tires while making the 2-3 shift, you have overlap.

Just be safe about it and chalk the fronts and be ready to stab the brake if something goes haywire. Tires should only be in the 35-45mph range on a o/d equipped truck if I had to guess. Lol
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Re: a518 atf+4 or other?

Postby DodgeFreak » Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:34 pm

I'll try to get you the directions tomorrow. Sorry I thought I had them on my computer. It's the rear left pipe plug.
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Re: a518 atf+4 or other?

Postby jay » Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:18 pm

Just something to think about my 92 would not go into od as well my tech checked my tps and said it should only have 1volt at idle/key on power and at wot should be around 4 volts he adjusted mine but was not my problem my problem is a broken ground to od solenoid. Don't know if this helps at all hope it does.
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