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Another 1st gen on 3rd gen wheels

Postby opiebennett » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:03 pm

Lets see who can notice the difference...

Before:

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after:

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Used some of these:

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installed:

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Yes, they are 3rd Gen wheels. Cooper Discoverer ATP's in the 265/70/17 flavor.

Got the 2" wheel spacers custom made from US Wheel Adapters:
https://www.uswheeladapters.com/

The 1991 Dodge uses 8 on 6.5 with 1/2" lug studs, and the 3rd Gen uses 8 on 6.5 with 9/16 lug studs, and I was worried that any normal 2" spacer would have the 1/2" lug nut too far down in the taper to provide a good grip. So I had these made for this application with a price tag of $380 for all 4 shipped to my door (Hol-Y-SHIT).
They had one spot with some raised metal due to shipping, ground that flat. If I were designing them, I probably would have left a little more meat in some places and had less lug stud sticking out, but overall, they looked pretty good. They were supplied with the 1/2" lug nuts for mounting the spacer to the hub, about the cheapest quality lug nut I've ever seen. My trailer came with better lug nuts. I'm not 100% sold that I couldn't have just bought normal $60ea wheel spacers and been just as disappointed in the quality, but as long as the damn things dont come off, I'll call it a success.

Some tech:
The 1st Gen wheels are backspaced difference than the 3rd gen wheel, so the 2" adapter works great to change the lug studs, and to put the WMS at the appropriate distance.


Still need to bore out the center caps for the front manual locking hubs, but that will have to wait till tomorrow.
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Re: Another 1st gen on 3rd gen wheels

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:08 am

Lookin' good

Between the wash job and the new wheels it looks much better
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Re: Another 1st gen on 3rd gen wheels

Postby Tacoclaw » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:28 am

Vurry nice. 8)

I looked all over for a set of those before I found my wheels, I'm jealous. After having 10" wide wheels I do wish those were wider, but they're still one of the best looking wheels available.

I also got 1 1/2" front and 2" rear spacers on mine, gets rid of the stagger the stock rearends have.
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Re: Another 1st gen on 3rd gen wheels

Postby The_Head » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:33 am

Looks good. I'd like to get a set of 2nd gen alloys though.

You know what else would be cool is the 3rd gen steelies with the hubcaps. Have you seen those?
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Re: Another 1st gen on 3rd gen wheels

Postby CumminsPower59 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:36 am

I am running the same on my 91, the lug nuts that come with those spacers are plain junk. I ended up buying some nice open-ended 9/16" nuts with a 3/4" head on them so I could get a normal socket into the bores. I had already converted the 1/2" studs up to 9/16" studs.

Head, I had a set of those 2nd gen aluminums, got rid of them because they wouldn't "fit" and I didnt even think of spacers :roll: Haven't seen anyone with 3rd gen steelies though...

Anyways, looks good :thumright:
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Re: Another 1st gen on 3rd gen wheels

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:57 am

Have a p/n for the 9/16" stud?
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Re: Another 1st gen on 3rd gen wheels

Postby ihredneck » Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:53 am

I really do like those 3rd gen wheels! For a dually, I'm Alcoa classics all the way :D
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Re: Another 1st gen on 3rd gen wheels

Postby CumminsPower59 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:14 am

RC, its Dorman 610-283. As for lug nuts, I used a set of 2nd gen lug nuts I had laying around. I have converted two trucks using those Dorman studs and they work great. Word of caution, I wouldn't buy them from your local parts store unless you got some special way of getting them cheap, as they are a dollar or two more expensive per stud. Fleabay is probably the best place that I have found.
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Re: Another 1st gen on 3rd gen wheels

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:28 am

Thanks........next time I pull everything off to grease the wheel bearings, I'm thinking of upgrading.
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Re: Another 1st gen on 3rd gen wheels

Postby CumminsPower59 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:51 am

You're welcome. It's a worth while upgrade, as the larger, longer studs work well with aluminum wheels and spacers, there is more thread engagement than with the smaller, shorter 1/2" studs. Also, another note: if the studs are upgraded to 9/16", and spacers are used, the nuts that come with the spacers are almost impossible to use (the ones that came with mine), they are too large to fit in the bore, I went through two sockets and ended up having to drill and chisel one nut off, tough to do when there isn't much room to work with. The solution: buy 3/4" hex head, open end 9/16" lug nuts (found them on fleabay). They work well, and a 3/4" impact socket will fit down the spacer bores with room to spare.
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Re: Another 1st gen on 3rd gen wheels

Postby 1STGENFARMBOY » Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:22 pm

The_Head wrote:Looks good. I'd like to get a set of 2nd gen alloys though.

You know what else would be cool is the 3rd gen steelies with the hubcaps. Have you seen those?



I can't decide if I like the 2nd gen or 3rd gen wheels better, I really like both.
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Re: Another 1st gen on 3rd gen wheels

Postby mopardad1 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:15 am

when I gain the abilty to post pictures, I'll post the late model 17" duallys on my '93.
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Re: Another 1st gen on 3rd gen wheels

Postby ihredneck » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:03 am

mopardad1 wrote:when I gain the abilty to post pictures, I'll post the late model 17" duallys on my '93.

Please do and don't forget you promised ;)
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Re: Another 1st gen on 3rd gen wheels

Postby mopardad1 » Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:39 pm

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Re: Another 1st gen on 3rd gen wheels

Postby CumminsPower59 » Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:15 am

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Got it for ya ;)

All ya got to to is copy the link on the right side of your photobucket page, post it here and it will show up...
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