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Ahale's 84 crew cab build

Postby ahale2772 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:28 pm

hey all,

Alex Hale from Boston

Have not been in the firstgen game in a long time, but I'm getting back in it.

A while back I picked up an 84 W350 SRW CCSB frame and cab, no engine, no axles, kind of a title. I've had a 93 single cab W250 for about three years, but ever since I bought it it was in need of a frame swap, so its the donor for this swap. The goal of this build is a pretty simple build of a crew cab, Kept mostly stock besides a lift (~5 inch with 35's), and a bit more power (nothing out of normal VE with injectors and a turbo). I plan to tow a tow behind camper, and whatever else for normal truck duties with a flatbed car trailer.

The crew cab needed a full floor, and I was given a donor floor from a single cab, so I cut it in half and filled in the blank, New inner rockers were bent up, and the floor welded in. Other than the floor some work was needed on the door sills, and thats mostly done. The rest of the cab is in decent shape, thankfully the roof sill is perfect, but there is a decent dent in the roof that will need to be pushed out. Other than that a few dings in the rockers and on the back of the cab are all that plagues it.

The frame was in great shape, then I chopped it in half. I wanted a crew cab long bed, I had a clean long bed to do so, So I added 16 inches and boxed the frame the full length. I still need to fab the extra 8 inches at the end of the frame, I plan to integrate that into a big towing plate. I accomplished a ~4.5 inch lift by fabricating new spring eye points, I wanted to avoid lift springs. The front and rear both uses a shackle flip, and drop hangars. Everything bolts into the frame with welded 1/2-13 nuts everywhere, there are about 100 nuts welded in every hole that was in the frame. About half of the crossmembers that were previously riveted in to the frame are welded on, but the trans and centerbearing crossmembers are modified to be bolt in.

Ive got the cab and bed dropped on the frame just for eye candy for now, Ive got a decent list of things to do before they can be dropped on permanently. Looks like the whole thing will need a 1/2inch body lift to keep my custom made center floor from rubbing on the frame.

main to-do's in the next few months:

-extend rear of frame, and finalize all bed support and mount locations
-Mount fuel tank, begin to plumb lines for fuel and brakes
-Finalize spring setups, will need to decide what amount of block the rear gets once the engine is in the chassis.
-Remove donor engine and trans, clean, re-seal, install
-Paint all Jam's of doors, fenders, core support, floor.
-Buy a donor truck for a loaded red interior


my donor truck: this is actually a truck I bought from the first owner, A guy I used to work with at a feed and grain store at about age 10, its the first vehicle I ever remember being interested in to the point of wanting one, when he decided it was too far gone, I bought it and drove it for about a year. You can see how bad the frame is around the hangars. The cab and everything else is rotted in every way.

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new inner rockers were the first building block

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front floor, with removable tunnel

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new floor rails


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where the frame was extended, I took a 16X7 inch section out of the under cab portion of a single cab 92 frame.

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boxing... most is 1/8 inch, but some sections are 3/16 near cross members

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the rear hangars

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and front...

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front boxed

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primer!

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as she sits now

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Re: Ahale's 84 crew cab build

Postby Richie O » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:58 pm

Very nice. Thats a ton of work. Welcome back to the first gen curse.
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Re: Ahale's 84 crew cab build

Postby ahale2772 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:38 pm

Thanks, I never really lost the curse... just postponed it.

Hows 1stgen.org going? last I was on here you were on hiatus.

If I remember correctly, years ago you "boxed" a frame by cutting the vertical section out of another frame and adding it to the outside of another... did that hold up?
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Re: Ahale's 84 crew cab build

Postby PToombs » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:56 pm

Hi Alex, good to see you are well, welcome back!
Richie has been on more in the last week than he was all last year! :lol: He has a life now so he doesn't want to babysit us anymore. :(
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Re: Ahale's 84 crew cab build

Postby Richie O » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:22 pm

I never boxed a frame. Just plated one that was swiss cheese. I read some and fix small issues here and there on the site, but BC is the boss here. I couldn't spend the time thats needed here all the time. I go through periods when I don't get on for a month or better.
1989 W250 727, 3.07 L/S, S300, P/S Intercooler, Stans exaust, Pump adjustments, 127k miles,297 hp
1993 W250 extended cab, rag, 4.10 l/s, 6x16's, HTT 62/71/14 piston l/p, Isspro EV series tach, fuel pressure, boost, oil pres, water temp, volt, pryo, 132k/ 301 hp
1992 W250 with NV4500, 3.54's, 16cm 60mm GDS H1C, ground stock cone, Isspro tach, pryo, boost, fuel pressure, slow, rusty, dented,180k
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Re: Ahale's 84 crew cab build

Postby ahale2772 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:31 pm

Thanks Pete, good to be back.

I imagine want was never a part of Richie's babysitting.

I go through periods when I don't get on for 4 years or better.


I feel your pain... :roll:
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Re: Ahale's 84 crew cab build

Postby ellis93 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:49 pm

Looks good!
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Re: Ahale's 84 crew cab build

Postby dazedandconfused » Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:23 pm

Looking good. Do you still have your second gen dually? I really don't get on compD anymore so don't keep up with the performance stuff.
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Re: Ahale's 84 crew cab build

Postby ahale2772 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:41 pm

I still have the dually, I don't drive it much. There is no place on the street for smokey laggy 12V power, so it just sits and takes trash to the dump a few times a month.
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Re: Ahale's 84 crew cab build

Postby thrashingcows » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:41 pm

Congrats on getting back into the 1st Gen's....sweet project so far! That is a stout frame you built there, and the cab work looks top notch!

Are you going to put some holes in the lower section of the boxing on the frame to allow any moisture build up to get out, or holes to allow oiling of the internal sections of the boxed frame?
1984/93 Dodge Crewcab, W350, 1 Ton SRW, long box, 330K Km's, M&H spacer, 366 spring, fuel pin to deep side, 14cm housing, Piston LP, PS IC, Isspro Boost, Pyro and tach, NV4500, 29 spline NP205, 3.54's.


Check out the build....http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/dev/ ... 05923.html
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Re: Ahale's 84 crew cab build

Postby ahale2772 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:19 pm

Thanks^

Yeah, on the to-do list is vent holes in the frame for oiling, honestly didn't think of holes for moisture, but that's a valid point, A bunch of 1/2 holes should do. Oiling is my main plan for the whole truck.
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Re: Ahale's 84 crew cab build

Postby thrashingcows » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:08 pm

ahale2772 wrote:Thanks^

Yeah, on the to-do list is vent holes in the frame for oiling, honestly didn't think of holes for moisture, but that's a valid point, A bunch of 1/2 holes should do. Oiling is my main plan for the whole truck.


Sounds like a plan. ;) :mrgreen:
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Re: Ahale's 84 crew cab build

Postby bensol64 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:46 am

Looks like you have lots of work to do. Nice project! Can't wait to see more updates.
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Re: Ahale's 84 crew cab build

Postby erroljon » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:08 am

Awesome build!
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