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by **ryan10** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:33 pm

Hey guys, I have a line on a complete 12 valve with a p-pump for cheap. What is needed from the motor to swap to a p pump? i am assuming i would have everything. How hard is the swap? Also, would the 2nd gen head be an upgrade. I would O-ring it, and probaly run head studs. how much power could this combo handle?
thanks.

by **ford69557ci** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:44 am

To do the swap you will need the pump, lines, injectors, pump gear, timing case. block to pump bracket and might as well get the lift pump and lines also. yea the head is an upgrade it is supposed to have better ports. depending on the pump rating 160 180 or 215 the power of a p pump really just depends on airflow. there is alot of low dollar thing that can be done to a p pump to make alot of power. the 215 is what everybody wants but i have seen some 180 pumps with 13mm p&b's make alot of power and i think pdr starts with the 160 for thier crazy fueling stoopid pump.

by **ryan10** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 5:50 am

well, the motor is from a 96 manual, so is it a 215 pump?

by **KTA** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:24 am

It should be a 215 in 96. Why not just swap the whole motor, its easier and better.

by **ford69557ci** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:29 pm

yeah if its a good engine thats what i would do. i think the second gen 12v has a better piston design also??

by **DTanklage** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:54 am

pistons yea, for sure

but who is saying the head is any different?

never heard that one before

by **ford69557ci** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:19 pm

i was told the later engines have a better port design??? its even in a post on here somewhere the look the same to me but its hard to tell by lookin

by **DTanklage** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:26 pm

i aint buyin it

pretty sure same casting

by **KTA** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:14 am

Well the 2nd gen head has decreased swirl in the intake ports by design, it is not the same casting, and because it has less swirl it flows a bit more.

by **DTanklage** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:11 am

well i will comfirm that shortly

as soon as i get the 215hp motor apart

thanks kta

by **ford69557ci** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:04 pm

woohoo i knew i wasnt completely retarded lol

by **DTanklage** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:04 pm

says who?

by **ford69557ci** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:21 am

i got a note from my doctor it says im clinicly sane and metaly healthy hahahah what do they know

by **DTanklage** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:03 am

i was at the doc yesterday getting a physical for the nhra

they (nhra) make ya get one every two years

(if you want to keep your lic valid and race)

thank God it didnt cover mental health

according to the doc i am 'physically acceptable'

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