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Re: Over under vs side by side

Postby DMan1198 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:03 am

Seeing it was in the good stuff section tipped me off to it being about turbos rather than shotguns.
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Re: Over under vs side by side

Postby PToombs » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:42 pm

You actually look at what section it's in? :roll:
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Re: Over under vs side by side

Postby DMan1198 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:24 pm

Of course. You don’t?
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Re: Over under vs side by side

Postby 2uphill » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:06 pm

Yeh, here I thought I had limited knowledge on compounds ;) .. Dman/Remps/ptooms...I understand the steed speed and stainless diesel exhaust sticks out roughly inch r so farther...I assume not a big deal.
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Re: Over under vs side by side

Postby DMan1198 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:33 pm

All those manifolds match exactly the same position as stock. The only altered position ones are the straight flange from steed, and I want to say 5* from stainless.

I really like steed speeds, I have them on both trucks so far, and they’ll go on anything else I build.
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Re: Over under vs side by side

Postby PToombs » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:44 pm

I have an ATS on mine. My pockets aren't deep enough for Steed Speed..... :(
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Re: Over under vs side by side

Postby Bersaglieri » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:39 am

2uphill wrote:Yeh, here I thought I had limited knowledge on compounds ;) .. Dman/Remps/ptooms...I understand the steed speed and stainless diesel exhaust sticks out roughly inch r so farther...I assume not a big deal.


I have pictures somewhere of all three side by side if you're interested, Stock [Or was it 3 piece?], Steed, and Stainless.

Stainless..well, I couldn't sell it fast enough to buy a Steed, took a loss just to get away from it. Steed is like a CNC work of art. It's probably too nice for my motor or truck even. Good people and customer service. I've done the three piece dance, leaks, repair welds, and cracks forced me into a Steed. Pricey, but would have been cheaper if I had done it right the first time.

I think my compounds have a 1/2" spacer plate at the T3 flange. It's an open style spacer so we ported the HX35 housing and divider to help split the exhaust easier.
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Re: Over under vs side by side

Postby 2uphill » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:41 pm

That would b super and much appreciated, my crew dyno’d 317... not impressive to most, but I was tickled with it and closer to my goal of 350-400..( plenty of HP for me )... am so thankful for all on this site for sharing...
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Re: Over under vs side by side

Postby BC847 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:47 pm

Typical ATS 3-Piece manifold. Installed upside down for compound system. Includes a 1/2" spacer.

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Stainless Diesel T3 manifold. Again, installed upside down for compound system. Includes 1" spacer.

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Re: Over under vs side by side

Postby 2uphill » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:35 pm

Thanks, I’m going on DMans suggestion and bite bullet— steed speed it is, I assume spacer is for clocking purpose’s...I had Carl’s price me a complete list of pieces/parts I would need and his comment bout ‘inch longer’might get in way, had me puzzled,
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90 w250 4.58's, lots of lift, 40" tires, getrag,
84 d350 crew cab, GV, I/c 89, s300, 727 soon to be 47rh, 4.10, soon to be 3.07’s and 4x4, 130K
90 w350cc, 3.54, getrag, 125K
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Re: Over under vs side by side

Postby 2uphill » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:45 pm

I noticed custom lines with 3 piece ex and then saw twin intake on other...another upgrade I’m installing as well(twin intake)...thks
90 d350, SRW, 2wd, 727, stock, except banks i/c, 85K
90 w250 4.58's, lots of lift, 40" tires, getrag,
84 d350 crew cab, GV, I/c 89, s300, 727 soon to be 47rh, 4.10, soon to be 3.07’s and 4x4, 130K
90 w350cc, 3.54, getrag, 125K
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Re: Over under vs side by side

Postby BC847 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:27 pm

2uphill wrote:I noticed custom lines with 3 piece ex and then saw twin intake on other...another upgrade I’m installing as well(twin intake)...thks


Yeah, way back when I knew less about such, I had the folks at Shiede fold me a set of injector lines. They started the process at the injection pump. As such, all the slack in the lines ended-up at the injectors. Looked like sthi.



This is using lines I folded myself placing the slack at the IP.

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Re: Over under vs side by side

Postby 2uphill » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:04 pm

That’s funny they made me a set as well (2yrs ago?) when I swapped intake off a 96 I had, on to a 93 I was working on ( but never materialized ) I really didn’t like finished set for some reason or another, but will come to mind when I install them sometime this spring/summer. Thinking they may have been a little larger internal diameter as well. At some point I’ll try myself but as someone on here said in a previous thread” it can be/get expensive being cheap”....words of wisdom!! Thanks for your feed back.
90 d350, SRW, 2wd, 727, stock, except banks i/c, 85K
90 w250 4.58's, lots of lift, 40" tires, getrag,
84 d350 crew cab, GV, I/c 89, s300, 727 soon to be 47rh, 4.10, soon to be 3.07’s and 4x4, 130K
90 w350cc, 3.54, getrag, 125K
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Re: Over under vs side by side

Postby 2uphill » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:39 am

You did real nice job....This is where you wish you could buy the lines in the lengths you needed...I wonder if you couldn’t tweak/retweak some off a 4bt if inside happened to be same??
90 d350, SRW, 2wd, 727, stock, except banks i/c, 85K
90 w250 4.58's, lots of lift, 40" tires, getrag,
84 d350 crew cab, GV, I/c 89, s300, 727 soon to be 47rh, 4.10, soon to be 3.07’s and 4x4, 130K
90 w350cc, 3.54, getrag, 125K
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Re: Over under vs side by side

Postby 2uphill » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:01 am

Just called Scheid and they said they can make them any length you want... what i lack in talent I sure make up for in ignorance :bh:
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90 w250 4.58's, lots of lift, 40" tires, getrag,
84 d350 crew cab, GV, I/c 89, s300, 727 soon to be 47rh, 4.10, soon to be 3.07’s and 4x4, 130K
90 w350cc, 3.54, getrag, 125K
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