another turbo question

[captmatthew1]

i have a 92 w250 5 speed. pump turned up a little, and gauges, but not much more than that. i just bought a set of pods in the for sale section and want to upgrade the turbo with them to try and burn as much fuel as possible. i am on a tight budget and would only be buying a cheap used turbo.

is a hx-35 good bang for my buck? or should i be looking for something else? im a little new at modding diesels and dont know much about turbos.

i literally tow nothing and there is almost never anything in my bed. i dont really "work" the truck. just drive to work and around town and thought it would be fun to have a little more power behind it.

my biggest concern is clearing up the smoke with these injectors. i know that smoke is unburned fuel and i would rather have clean power than a sooty mess.

i assume i should also bump the timing on the pump. should i go 1/8 inch? or should i go more?

im not in a rush to burn up my truck. i just want some good usable power.

[CumminsPower59]

I scored a rebuilt H1C with a 60mm compressor upgrade and a 14cm2 exhaust housing, it works pretty good with the 6x11's I am running. POD's are a little bit bigger than 6x11's (cross section) and the upgraded H1C works decent enough as long as I am not pulling something heavy. If you could get a good used HX35 cheap enough and upgrade the compressor side, that would be good, as it already has a 12cm2 exhaust housing on it and it will spool fast enough, and push some air...

My $0.02

[cougar]

PODs are hard to clean up. The three things that help are bumping the timing, higher CFM turbo, and higher lift pump fuel pressure. Also use the thinnest seal washer to help with the 155° spray angle.

[oldestof11]

PODs are no longer a good "bang for a buck". Neither is a HX35. Unless you score both for $200 and $150 respectively, I would save the money and get correctly sized parts.

[captmatthew1]

Well I got the pods for 225 shipped. And I'm looking at a hx35 for another 200. Since I have already purchased the injectors it is too late for regrets. What would be a good turbo to match these injectors?

[cougar]

Well I got the pods for 225 shipped. And I'm looking at a hx35 for another 200. Since I have already purchased the injectors it is too late for regrets. What would be a good turbo to match these injectors?

Something like an HX40 or HE351CW(?)

[cmann250]

I've read that PODs have a 160* spray angle, but I haven't seen for myself. If that's true, bumping the timing would make them haze worse than they already do with the smaller IC'd piston bowls. My friend has a '90 with PODs and I haven't noticed them being too hazy, but he has the wider bowls.

Captmatthew, if you want to spend a bit more money and never have to worry about breaking your turbo, look into an S300g

[oldestof11]

^ What he said!

[captmatthew1]

Ok. Where can one be had, and how much should I spend on one. Obviously these apparently were not the best injectors to buy, but I had read that they are a good starter injector. Are they at least a fun step over stock? I thought I got a good deal on a set, but set me straight if I was mis informed.

[oldestof11]

HE351CW came on 05-07 Cummins, the 07+ 6.7L had a HE351VE. THERE IS A MAJOR DIFFERENCE!

Super40, IDK.

cmann, 160* or so angle is because they were made for VW TDI engines, who have the same pressures as our pumps, because they had our pumps.

[cmann250]

Good info Jon, I didn't know the VW connection

Ok. Where can one be had, and how much should I spend on one. Obviously these apparently were not the best injectors to buy, but I had read that they are a good starter injector. Are they at least a fun step over stock? I thought I got a good deal on a set, but set me straight if I was mis informed.

To add to what oldestof11 said, the turbos off of the 6.7L are vgt and you'll have to rig something to control it and that'll just cost more. The PODs are ok injectors, technology just has progressed. I'm sure they're fun and I doubt EGTs will be out of control. They were all the rage just a few years ago. And you didn't get hurt on price either for low mile injectors.
You can find the HX40 on 6CT (8.3L) Cummins if you are scouring Craigslist or happen to have a medium duty truck salvage yard near by. The Super40 is off a certain year (24 valve) 8.3L. Most skip the HX and go to the Super because of better technology and durability

The Super40 part number is 4031450 from Turbo Supply.

Another guy asked the same question a few posts down. I just dug around on this site, it's a common upgrade

[Tacoclaw]

I've read that PODs have a 160* spray angle, but I haven't seen for myself. If that's true, bumping the timing would make them haze worse than they already do with the smaller IC'd piston bowls. My friend has a '90 with PODs and I haven't noticed them being too hazy, but he has the wider bowls.

PODs have a higher pop pressure than our injectors, so when you bump the timing it brings them back to normal timing. If you just leave them alone your timing end up being retarded compared to ours due to the small window of time it takes for our pump to overcome the higher pop pressure.

My non-IC'd truck didn't lose any real power with them, but it hazed a good bit worse. I never bumped the timing with them.

[captmatthew1]

so would one like this be a good one to get then if the price is right?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 500wt_1363