Ppump swap problem

[JustinRhodes]

I get ready to bolt down the engine mounts and i cant, so i get to looking at what is hitting, turns out the back of the ppump is hitting the master cylinder. What are my options here?

Also levi, lets leave the told you shouldve stayed with a ve comments to a minimum lol

[cmann250]

Well....

I've heard or this happening before. What about using a 2nd gen master cylinder? I think they're a little smaller. Or do you have room to scoot the whole engine up and inch or so or will that not leave enough room between the fan and the radiator?

Maybe the P-Pump is too heavy, casuing the engine to lean that way. Better put a BIG turbo on the other side to even it out

[mike8061]

what about hydoboost? smaller and easier braking?

[cmann250]

moparman87's sig indicates he has a P-Pump. I bet he could tell you, he's even from O-hia too

[bgilbert]

Is the rear of the engine supported? Or just hanging?

[Tacoclaw]

The AFC housing is rubbing the bottom of the end of the master, right on the outside corner bolt of it. It needs either an inch chopped off the end master, or that corner of the AFC choppped off to fit the way it was sitting when I was there. They're setting the mounts back the way mine are and bolting up the X member, then unbolting the master and fitting iit back on once the engine is down. He may just have it bty just doing that, but if not he's got the master off the 2ndgen to throw on it too.

The trans is supported with a jack, but I was eyeballing it while I was there and it could be a little low.

[JustinRhodes]

The AFC housing is rubbing the bottom of the end of the master, right on the outside corner bolt of it. It needs either an inch chopped off the end master, or that corner of the AFC choppped off to fit the way it was sitting when I was there. They're setting the mounts back the way mine are and bolting up the X member, then unbolting the master and fitting iit back on once the engine is down. He may just have it bty just doing that, but if not he's got the master off the 2ndgen to throw on it too.

The trans is supported with a jack, but I was eyeballing it while I was there and it could be a little low.

We got the cross member in, engine mounts all bolted up, and it still dont have the clearance needed. The problem i dont believe is in the master cylinder. I called super tim and he said that their should only be about a 1/4 gap between oil pan/engine crossmember. I have like an 1" gap which says to me, my engine is too high in the front.

So that being said, What are my options to get the engine back down to where it needs to be? Ive always thought that the fan was really close to the shroud at the top.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Also levi, just so you know, that ve pump doesnt look that bad after all

[bgilbert]

So you have the tranny bolted to the engine and the engine/tranny combo are resting on the tranny crossmember?

[JustinRhodes]

So you have the tranny bolted to the engine and the engine/tranny combo are resting on the tranny crossmember?

Yes, and engine mount.

The engine is bolted down on the motor mounts, but the engine is sitting kinda crooked, and it looks like it needs to move over towards the passenger side more and go down. There is a 1" gap or so between oil pan/crossmember.

[Tacoclaw]

Justin, I don't have enough servicet to send out a text.

You can take the book, but there's only one pic of the mounts and it's not a great one.

[JustinRhodes]

Justin, I don't have enough servicet to send out a text.

You can take the book, but there's only one pic of the mounts and it's not a great one.

I actually thought i was on to something, there was another set of slots on the engine crossmember, but they arent gonna work. A buddy with a ppump first gen stopped by and he took a look at it. he dont know what the deal is.

Idk what to do at this point

At this point, Im considering cutting and welding the motor mounts so the engine is about 3/4 lower like it needs to be. Does anyone see any problem with this? I try to do things right, but i dont see any other options at this point honestly.

[PToombs]

Loosen the mounts, and jack the passenger side up a little bit. Sometimes this will let the drivers side drop in the slots and level itself. I've done it before with gassers, and we did it with pultilbrokes in the spring. His was a lot harder due to the vehicle history....

[JustinRhodes]

Loosen the mounts, and jack the passenger side up a little bit. Sometimes this will let the drivers side drop in the slots and level itself. I've done it before with gassers, and we did it with pultilbrokes in the spring. His was a lot harder due to the vehicle history....

Thanks, i tried that. and it still wasnt enough, however I had a welder cut my motor mounts down a half inch and it works now.. Now my radiator is cracked...

[Tacoclaw]

It's rejecting the Pee pump!!

Now get off the internet and get back to work.

[PToombs]

It's rejecting the Pee pump!!

That was my thought when he started having problems!