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Postby RSWORDS » Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:05 am

So the 89 is running pretty respectable if I do say so myself... Here is the rundown...

POD's (I Know, I Know)
II Silver 62 - S300 based 62/74/14
Head Bolts Torqued to 120 lt/lbs
DennyT Stage II
Screws played with, close to runaway.
Reindexed throttle
Walbro 392 Pump w/ 3/8" lines
Built Tranny with Goerend TC
Reverse Manual VB
3200 Spring

So.. The Silver 62 does a VERY good job of clearing up my smoke. Time for more fuel. Should I step up and get some real injectors or remove the AFC lever?

What injectors? Should I go with 435's or Jump right into the 6x16's?

Truck is used for sled pulling and some street driving.
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Postby bgilbert » Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:33 am

I'd say intercool it. I'd say you're leaving as much as 75rwhp on the table. That's if your tranny will put down the potential added power. I'd do that first before anything else. Find yourself a mostly leak free 1st gen intercooler and it should treat you fine as long as you have a VE pump, IMO. Then the next step would be a set of Scheid or kta 6x16's, then kta 14mm h&r, getrag, clutch, and the list goes on and on 8) .
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Postby RSWORDS » Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:54 am

bgilbert wrote:I'd say intercool it. I'd say you're leaving as much as 75rwhp on the table. That's if your tranny will put down the potential added power. I'd do that first before anything else. Find yourself a mostly leak free 1st gen intercooler and it should treat you fine as long as you have a VE pump, IMO. Then the next step would be a set of Scheid or kta 6x16's, then kta 14mm h&r, getrag, clutch, and the list goes on and on 8) .


I have a 1st gen intercooler sitting here. I just REFUSE to cut up my grill. I also have a Air to water set-up that I bought... I guess its time to get working on that. And billl... No getrag... i love my 727
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Postby bgilbert » Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:16 am

RSWORDS wrote:I have a 1st gen intercooler sitting here. I just REFUSE to cut up my grill. I also have a Air to water set-up that I bought... I guess its time to get working on that. And billl... No getrag... i love my 727

You only have to cut up your grill if you try to install a 3" cored IC like a Ford PS IC. The air to water cooler will help, but I'd go with the IC myself, btdt.
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Postby RSWORDS » Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:56 pm

bgilbert wrote:
RSWORDS wrote:I have a 1st gen intercooler sitting here. I just REFUSE to cut up my grill. I also have a Air to water set-up that I bought... I guess its time to get working on that. And billl... No getrag... i love my 727

You only have to cut up your grill if you try to install a 3" cored IC like a Ford PS IC. The air to water cooler will help, but I'd go with the IC myself, btdt.


A stock 1st gen inter cooler will fit behind a 89 grill? I thought you had to cut alot of it off.

You really think a stock intercooler will do better then air-to-water with ice water for pulling? hhhmmm.... I might need to just start taking stuff apart and see were I stand. :D
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Postby bgilbert » Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:00 pm

RSWORDS wrote:A stock 1st gen inter cooler will fit behind a 89 grill? I thought you had to cut alot of it off.

Sure will. Matt's 90 and my 89 both have 1st gen intercoolers that fit like they came from the factory. It's just when you don't know what you're doing you gut your grill :roll: , right ptb? ;) . One of these day I'll take some pics of it. My plan is to replace the leaking one I have with a leak free one if I ever find one. Then I'll snap some pics.
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Postby RSWORDS » Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:13 pm

bgilbert wrote:Sure will. Matt's 90 and my 89 both have 1st gen intercoolers that fit like they came from the factory. It's just when you don't know what you're doing you gut your grill :roll: , right ptb? ;) . One of these day I'll take some pics of it. My plan is to replace the leaking one I have with a leak free one if I ever find one. Then I'll snap some pics.


I would love some pics bill... as usual you have steered me back onto the right track! Thanks! :lol:
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Postby GO OVRIT » Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:48 pm

If you want an intercooled core support, radiator and grill, come by and swap it with the stuff on my green truck. I've got plenty of tubes and hump hoses too.
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Postby pulltilbroke » Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:11 pm

You ain't gotta rub it in Bill :lol:

I got a bunch of pics in my photobucket on the "wrong" way to put one in

http://s547.photobucket.com/albums/hh44 ... /?start=20

If I didn't cut the grille then it probly would've been cut this week when I put a 2nd gen cooler in
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Postby RSWORDS » Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:54 am

GO OVRIT wrote:If you want an intercooled core support, radiator and grill, come by and swap it with the stuff on my green truck. I've got plenty of tubes and hump hoses too.


hhhmmm..... Mike we might have to do some swapping....

Are the fenders and the hood the same between teh two years?
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Postby bgilbert » Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:18 am

RSWORDS wrote:
GO OVRIT wrote:If you want an intercooled core support, radiator and grill, come by and swap it with the stuff on my green truck. I've got plenty of tubes and hump hoses too.


hhhmmm..... Mike we might have to do some swapping....

Are the fenders and the hood the same between teh two years?

Fenders and hood are the same. But why would you want that hideous 91-93 grill over the best looking grill Dodge ever put out, the 86-90 grill??? :lol:
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Postby RSWORDS » Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:02 pm

Ease of instalation? :lol:
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Postby JQmile » Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:36 pm

Get ya some water/meth, it will solve your cooling issues and add hp. As for injectors, if you get some, get some 6x16's, don't weenie out with anything smaller.
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Postby CAJUN 93 » Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:42 am

bgilbert wrote:Fenders and hood are the same. But why would you want that hideous 91-93 grill over the best looking grill Dodge ever put out, the 86-90 grill??? :lol:


86-90 the best looking? i walk out and look at 5 93 grilles every morning and we'll definetly agree to disagree :lol: . my personal favorites are the mid 30's dodge brothers grilles and the mid 60's with the pie pan headlamp rings. dodge has built some beautifuly ugly trucks :D .

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Postby pulltilbroke » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:48 pm

With some trimming you could put a 2nd gen cooler back there to
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