VE 24 valve

[Begle1]

Anybody ever seen one?

I've decided I'm going to buy an ISB and put a VE pump on it. I'm sick of crack-o-matic 12 valve heads, asymmetric pistons and individual valve covers.

I figure that it shouldn't be too hard considering all the P-pumped 24 valves running around, right?

[Oddfire]

[roxxx]

Pop off on the injectors might be your biggest hurdle
why not go with a p pump ? unless you just want braggin rights

[seeker1056]

go for it - would love to see one = its only R&D and money lol

[burnt_servo]

would it be that difficult ?

don't the injection lines go into the pump in roughly the same area on both engines ... meaning that maybe a guy might get away with not having to build custom lines . ( asuming the fittings are the same on both pumps ) .

then it would just be a matter of making a pop tester and figuring out how to drop the pop pressure of the injectors . ( are the first gen and 24 valve injectors similar enough to swap in the softer springs from the 1st gen injectors ? )

does the ve easily bolt onto the 24 valve engine ?
what about timing ?

[Oddfire]

I have always wanted to do this with a 24v 4bt.

[roxxx]

I have always wanted to do this with a 24v 4bt.

24 v ? really has someone has done that ? wow

[Ace]

Pop off on the injectors might be your biggest hurdle

I think I would characterize it as more of an insurmountable obstacle.

[KTA]

Anybody ever seen one?

I've decided I'm going to buy an ISB and put a VE pump on it. I'm sick of crack-o-matic 12 valve heads, asymmetric pistons and individual valve covers.

I figure that it shouldn't be too hard considering all the P-pumped 24 valves running around, right?

That is funny 24v heads crack worse than 12V, and if you get an old motor with a 53 block you can have a cracked one of those too! Oh and it will take custom lines because the hookups are nothing close to the same.

[BC847]

Don't the 12v flow more?

[Begle1]

I thought they fixed the cracking issue. Strike 1.


I would figure that somebody would be able to custom make me injectors and lines.


I thought that 24 valve heads flowed considerably better mod-for-mod? If not that'd be strike 2, 3 and 4...

[IowaCummins]

i thought mark nixon had a VE 24v? it might of just been a VE 2nd gen. just a minute i will look real quick

[IowaCummins]

never mind it was 96 12 valver.

[TRENDZ]

I have always wanted to do this with a 24v 4bt.

So, that would be six valves per cylinder? would be a crazy valvetrain.

[Begle1]

I think that there are some European high-class cars with 6 valves per cylinder. Three-way cross-heads I assume? Five valves are pretty common...


24 valve heads flow much better than 12 valve heads mod-for-mod, correct? PDR says so. And P-pumped 24 valves seem to be getting awfully popular on the competitive end of things... http://www.pdrdiesel.com/oldsite/DodgePortedHead.htm

I'd do it to get the better pistons, the better rods, the engine position sensors, the better lubrication and coolant systems, the better valve covers, the arguably better valve train, et cetera, all in one $2000 eBay package.

24 valve block, VE timing cover, injection pump gear, injection pump, probably will need custom lines, stock crossover tubes, custom injectors. I'd suspect that stock 2nd gen injector pop pressures could be dropped enough to work. I think that the only thing custom required would be injection lines?

I'm poor so it's probably be better to just rebuild a 12 valve long block with some more recent goodies inside and spend money on a modified 12 valve head. But I don't think it'd be that hard or foolish to put a VE pump on a 24 valve engine. Well, foolish within the context of somebody who has already crippled themselves with the VE pump for the sake of being different.