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Piston lift pump

Postby lectro_static » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:56 pm

I was looking around at different lift pumps and found Cummins # 3936317 I cant seem to find any info on it. I THOUGHT I saw somewhere it was rated at 18psi but cant seem to find that again. If it is rated at 18psi will a VE pump take that much in, or is there any way to tell without buying it putting it on and chancing blowing the seal out.
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Postby Mark Nixon » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:46 pm

It's for an 6bt inline pump application.
High pressure, I'm sure.

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Postby peobryant » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:52 pm

This is what you need...

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Postby Mark Nixon » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:02 pm

I just downloaded a PDF that shows all kinds of parts and information, for everything from the 3.9 up to the N14s and more.

It's pretty in-depth.

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Postby lectro_static » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:14 pm

I just talked to a guy at Oregon Fuel Injection you are correct Mark the pump I was asking about is for an inline. They do carry the 3936320 pump and it sells for LESS then $65, he looked around a bit and found a pump that looks just like those two but is set at 12psi its a delphi #HFP701 and sells for $83.56. Does anyone know what the 3936320 is set at?

Mark would you share the url of where you got the fuel pump info at I think that could be very useful.
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Postby Mark Nixon » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:22 pm

I'm sure SOMEONE here has already found it before, but here's the link:

www.endurancepower.com/media/CATALOG_CUM.pdf

It asks you about saving it right away!

I can imagine myself using it to order parts with, that's for sure!

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Postby lectro_static » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:37 pm

Thank you, it does have a lot of useful info
soon to be 1985 Chevy crew cab with 93 cummins running gear
weeping head gasket
4" straight pipe
M&H M3 fuel pin
M&H Dynamic Timing Advance
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Full power screw bottomed out no runaway
Auto Meter EGT and Boost
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Postby Richie O » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:53 pm

lectro_static wrote:I just talked to a guy at Oregon Fuel Injection you are correct Mark the pump I was asking about is for an inline. They do carry the 3936320 pump and it sells for LESS then $65, he looked around a bit and found a pump that looks just like those two but is set at 12psi its a delphi #HFP701 and sells for $83.56. Does anyone know what the 3936320 is set at?

Mark would you share the url of where you got the fuel pump info at I think that could be very useful.


My 3936320 is at 13 to 15 psi AFTER the filter so its more then there 12psi unit. I had looked at there pumps ( online that is ) and some guys on DTR bought some of there cheaper ones. I think the cheaper one was in the 7 or 8 psi range. Its been awile since that thread over there has been active so don't hold me to it. :D
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Postby lectro_static » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:16 pm

On another board BC847 said
With the lift-pump, running PDR "190" injectors with the typically tweaked injection pump, I'm seeing . ..

- Approximately 12psig while free-revving the engine to 2500rpm.
- Approximately 9psig at idle.
- Approximately 7psig under WOT.



Is that about where you are at Richie? I would like at least 10psi at all times but would really like to do it without the expense and hassle of running a bypass regulator etc. Im not at all opposed to running the lift pump that everyone else is, just trying to get a bit more psi

Are you saying that OFI's pumps are not as good? That would be good to know before I buy a pump........
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Postby Richie O » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:24 pm

I'm gonna talk to someone I think bought one. I will get back to you. Also I can draw mine down to 3 psi on a good run. I do have stock filter and lines though. I assume I could increase some with bigger lines and filter.
1989 W250 727, 3.07 L/S, S300, P/S Intercooler, Stans exaust, Pump adjustments, 127k miles,297 hp
1993 W250 extended cab, rag, 4.10 l/s, 6x16's, HTT 62/71/14 piston l/p, Isspro EV series tach, fuel pressure, boost, oil pres, water temp, volt, pryo, 132k/ 301 hp
1992 W250 with NV4500, 3.54's, 16cm 60mm GDS H1C, ground stock cone, Isspro tach, pryo, boost, fuel pressure, slow, rusty, dented,180k
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Postby PToombs » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:27 pm

With my 3936320 I have 15-16 at idle and from 11 to 14 psi at wot (depending on temps) with my 370's and a maxed pump.
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Postby Richie O » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:33 pm

PToombs wrote:With my 3936320 I have 15-16 at idle and from 11 to 14 psi at wot (depending on temps) with my 370's and a maxed pump.


Is the rest of your fuel system including the filter stock?
1989 W250 727, 3.07 L/S, S300, P/S Intercooler, Stans exaust, Pump adjustments, 127k miles,297 hp
1993 W250 extended cab, rag, 4.10 l/s, 6x16's, HTT 62/71/14 piston l/p, Isspro EV series tach, fuel pressure, boost, oil pres, water temp, volt, pryo, 132k/ 301 hp
1992 W250 with NV4500, 3.54's, 16cm 60mm GDS H1C, ground stock cone, Isspro tach, pryo, boost, fuel pressure, slow, rusty, dented,180k
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Postby mprmn08 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:38 pm

mine pumps the same as ptombs and mines about 16 at idle and i only pull down to bout 14 on WOT but i got stock sticks and lines.
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Postby PToombs » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:59 pm

All stock lines and filter, for now. When I get it in it's getting a draw straw, 1/2" lines and a large prefilter. Then stock from the LP to the IP. I'll see what happens with pressure then.
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Postby Richie O » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:01 pm

Well you are making more power so I am not sure why I am dropping more. I have bigger sticks but I am at 300 hp tune right now.
1989 W250 727, 3.07 L/S, S300, P/S Intercooler, Stans exaust, Pump adjustments, 127k miles,297 hp
1993 W250 extended cab, rag, 4.10 l/s, 6x16's, HTT 62/71/14 piston l/p, Isspro EV series tach, fuel pressure, boost, oil pres, water temp, volt, pryo, 132k/ 301 hp
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