14mm head

[oldestof11]

Jason Sands has an SAE paper for correction factors. Basically, for a FI engine, take the CF for a NA engine and 1/2 it for every atmospheric pressure the turbo makes. So a CF of 30% on a gasser would be 7.5% on a turbo charged engine making 28psi. That is 2x the atmospheric pressure (14.7psi) so 1/2 of 30 is 15, 1/2 of 15 is 7.5.

I am not talking about the power Austin has made, but rather a 1st Gen VE placing 3rd in the 3.0 out of 8 trucks. He says he has hit 4200rpms a few times.

[RCCUMMINS89]

Agreed, doesn't matter if his truck made 10000hp or 15hp. His truck flat runs, no one can deny that.

Also, when a dyno correction factor is made..... wouldn't they use the correct cf for what they are testing? I'm sure this isn't some of the operators' first rodeo.

[turboram]

Every tooth on the ij pump gear is like 10deg right? And does anyone know how much timing advance the pumps have thought i read somewhere it was only like 4deg

[cmann250]

I am not talking about the power Austin has made, but rather a 1st Gen VE placing 3rd in the 3.0 out of 8 trucks. He says he has hit 4200rpms a few times.

In Idaho, correct? I love to see a VE compete and I have alot of respect for guys like him and pulltilbroke that compete with them, but bring it to Indiana. I'm not to mitigate any VE accomplishments, but 1 or 2 diesel pick-ups in the average midwestern Walmart parking lot could compete in ODL in Idaho. Context is everything.

[turboram]

Heres a teaser this is my dual feed
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[RCCUMMINS89]

Oh, my goodness.... You have never been to Idaho. In Idaho Diesel pickups are more important than anything.

At any given time at any walmart parking lot, there are probably 30 600hp trucks. Alligator Performance, Diesel Power Products, Glacier Diesel... all are half hour from me... I'ms ure there are more.

[RCCUMMINS89]

Flat out cracks me up how everyone in Indiana, Ohio, ect.. all think they are the central of the world and if anyone does anyting else in any other part of the country, then it was the dyno, or operator, or something. They ALWAYS have an excuse about how their dyno was off that day.

[cmann250]

Oh, my goodness.... You have never been to Idaho. In Idaho Diesel pickups are more important than anything.

At any given time at any walmart parking lot, there are probably 30 600hp trucks. Alligator Performance, Diesel Power Products, Glacier Diesel... all are half hour from me... I'ms ure there are more.

I have in fact been to Idaho. I spent a week between Spokane and the Orofino, ID area. If I'm not mistaken, you are from the same area. I noticed alot of nice older diesels, but not high performance trucks. Not to start a pissing match, but just because you have an ad in Diesel Power does not mean you are a big deal in the diesel industry. There's a Scheid in my back yard, Haisley is a bit north of me, Danville Performance, Fleece Performance, and South Bend Clutch are all Indiana companies. Heck the B series Cummins plant is in Columbus.

To sum it up, Alligator sells South Bend clutches.

[Tacoclaw]

They just put a B-dubs in about 20 minutes from me, does that mean my truck can compete?

Hell yeah, I'm hitting the track!!

[RCCUMMINS89]

Not the point boys.

The point is, there are not hardly any older high performance trucks. Most people out here have money to blow on newer trucks. Newer trucks are hard to compete with, plain and simple. There are a ridiculous amount of extremely high performance trucks running around.

Not the Spokane area, or little itty bitty Orofino. Most trucks are in the cda area, then down south, where Austin is at.


Bottom line is, most people don't know sthi about any other part of the country and think that their home town is the highest performance know it all place in the planet. Get over it, 95% of the U.S. has the same amount of competition. Quit putting down someone like Austin, because he competes better than you do. Just like the tremendous amount of overwhelming whining about how this part of the country and this part of the country has different dynos and if my truck was there.... I know more than you, bs.

Sorry rant over.

[Tacoclaw]

Mmmmmm, wings.



turboram, your setup looks sweet, wish you luck with it.


Also, who the hell is Austin Elmore?

[AHineman]

Bottom line is, most people don't know sthi about any other part of the country and think that their home town is the highest performance know it all place in the planet. Get over it, 95% of the U.S. has the same amount of competition. Quit putting down someone like Austin, because he competes better than you do. Just like the tremendous amount of overwhelming whining about how this part of the country and this part of the country has different dynos and if my truck was there.... I know more than you, bs.

My post was a joke because every single time he would post dyno results on DTR, he would brag up the numbers and not know if they were corrected or not. Then after several other members would question such high numbers for the given setup, he would figure out the correction factor was anywhere between 20-25%.


To me, even trying to build a VE powered 3.0 truck is a waste of time and money. I've been to a couple of pulls where the big boys like Haisley show up and you are NEVER going to keep up with them with a VE, no matter how good your setup is. But if he has fun at it, good for him. I get my kicks from driving my truck and hauling junk with it, but what do I know?



Also, to the OP;

Let us know how your setup works. It looks cool.

[cummins12club]

Soooo what's the status on the rotor head install?

[AHineman]

Every tooth on the ij pump gear is like 10deg right? And does anyone know how much timing advance the pumps have thought i read somewhere it was only like 4deg

10*s for every tooth and full advance is 7* I believe, unless the timing piston has been messed with or you have a timing device installed.

[RCCUMMINS89]

Bottom line is, most people don't know sthi about any other part of the country and think that their home town is the highest performance know it all place in the planet. Get over it, 95% of the U.S. has the same amount of competition. Quit putting down someone like Austin, because he competes better than you do. Just like the tremendous amount of overwhelming whining about how this part of the country and this part of the country has different dynos and if my truck was there.... I know more than you, bs.

My post was a joke because every single time he would post dyno results on DTR, he would brag up the numbers and not know if they were corrected or not. Then after several other members would question such high numbers for the given setup, he would figure out the correction factor was anywhere between 20-25%.


To me, even trying to build a VE powered 3.0 truck is a waste of time and money. I've been to a couple of pulls where the big boys like Haisley show up and you are NEVER going to keep up with them with a VE, no matter how good your setup is. But if he has fun at it, good for him. I get my kicks from driving my truck and hauling junk with it, but what do I know?



Also, to the OP;

Let us know how your setup works. It looks cool.

My rant wasn't directed at anyone in particular.