told I couldn't run 6x16 injectors?

[PToombs]

I'm not sure that a 1st gen I/C will flow enough air for 400.
$1500 bucks for a turbo.

Tom, do you have a Photobucket account? Host photos there, then just copy and paste the IMG tag over to here.

[ford69557ci]

With 435s maxed out fuel screw and no afc I was pullin down a piston pump. The 6x16 will work best with a electric and large lines.

[fasttalker83]

I know its not a truck but here is an expierement we had a JD 4630 tractor stock injector is 3 hole put 4 hole in stock settings and got some more horse and a little smoke figure well lets try some 5 hole tips we put them in and it smoked like crazy and didnt have any power so we had to go back to the 4 hole and delt with the smoke....bottom line is like everyone else you can run any size tip you want hell the new dodges run 9 hole tips for better atomazation to try to control emissions...you can do this but there is an extent to go before do other fuel modifications and also to hit a certain hp number as well

[dpuckett]

You are right on. I had a set of DonM 8-hole EDMs. Smoked like a freight train on a grade. I sent them back, got some 5 holers that smoked a little less. The stock 4 hole sticks smoked the least, and had the best power/MPG/smoke ratio for me. I think Don's problem was in his angles- they werent the same as the stock 1stgen sticks.

But, there is something to be said for the 5 and 6 holers. They have been run successfully in lots of pickups.

DP

[redneckroot]

Okay so lets try this again then. What do I need to take my motor from stock to 400hp. I would really not like to spend 1500 on a turbo, but I do only want to buy and build this thing once if at all possible. It has to be done on a single charger 2.5 is the limit. I still want to be able to hot rod the thing around on the street. So what do I need?

What injectors?
What turbo?
Will my electric carter pump plus a piston pump do it?

[ford69557ci]

A second gen piston pump with a regulator will get it done. 400 whp probly is not gonna happen with a stock turbo it willtake a hx40 or better. A good set of 435's will get you to the 400 hp mark and then some with enough air. Also airflow mods make a big difference on the first gen trucks. Better intercooler and piping made a big difference on my old truck.

[redneckroot]

What I would like to know is what do I have to do to make the 400hp
What size injectors would be the smartest buy?
What size turbo and from where? (link to a site is helpful because I don't know anything about turbos)
What do I need to do to my fuel system to make sure the pump is well fed?

I want to get parts ordered and on their way, I can't build the exhaust until I have the turbo bolted up. The more I read the more confused I am getting. Anyone out there that has done it fill me in please. Thanks.

[ford69557ci]

Depends on what you wanna spend on a turbo. A 62-65-14 s300 is the higher priced turbo. It will spoold good keep egts down and be good for towing also. They are available from HTT, Industrial Injection, And about any decent diesel performance parts supplier. The low dollar turbo would be a hx40 with the 16cm or 18cm wastegated t-3 housing. These can be found on ebay usually for 500 bucks or so. Piers diesel and several other companies also offer thier own version of the hx40. Also a good place to look for one is the diesel core yards. For the injectors a good set of 435's with the right pump adjustments will get you to 400hp and those can be bought at New Era Diesel Performance. The fuel system also depends on how much money you want to spend. I would recomend an Aeromotive electric pump, regulator, larger fuel lines, and a larger filter. You can also run a second gen piston pump with a regulator and it should support 400hp. But either way all of the lines should be upgraded. If your truck in a non ic truck a Ford powerjoke intercooler or a second gen dodge intercooler will help alot with the power and egts. If it is an ic truck then I would still upgrade the intercooler because the stock one is wimpy. Twonline is a member on here and sells some really nice stainless intercooler pipng that is worth some power and egt reduction also.

[redneckroot]

Is the "62-65-14 s300 " turbo the best to go with for the money? Its going to be 1500 bucks are there better options or cheaper comparable options out there? I've heard to many bad things about the hx40 to want to run one. I was hoping to get this stuff ordered this week but still feeling kind of clueless. Thanks for the info so far ford.

[Richie O]

The lil 57mm s300 is just under a grand but 400 hp is in the upper end of what that will support. I think my next one will be the 62mm s300. If someone was happy with no more then 375 or 400 then it would work. A s300g 57mm is rated for more then a hx40 so if a hx40 will work then a little s300 should also. Am I correct??

[Philip]

A Super HX40 is rated for 425 to 475 HP.

[Richie O]

A Super HX40 is rated for 425 to 475 HP.

COOL. Philip, do you have the cfm specs on that turbo? Is that the one you have?

[ford69557ci]

If you can find one in a core yard certain caterpillar 3126 and C-7 engines have a 64-71-16 s300 and some of them have the 62 and some have the 57 or somethin small like that. I ran a c-7 turbo for along time it was the 64mm version and it spooled great and they are usually internally gated. I gave 250 for mine in a core yard and it was in great shape I also see them on ebay every once in a while for around 500-700. I think the super hx40 is slightly over 1000 and all of my stock hx40s that I have blown up came apart around 45-50 psi so they can be a good turbo as long as the boost is kept in a lower range.

[redneckroot]

I found BD's super B special http://www.xtremediesel.com/bd-powersup ... urbo1.aspx
I called them and it is suppose to come with a down pipe and everything. Would this turbo be better then then one from industrial injection?

[Philip]

I have the Super40 Richie.

The only spc's listed on holset's site is for the standard 40's

http://www.holset.co.uk/mainsite/files/ ... 20HX40.php

If you notice in that link it says for engines in the 7 to 10 litre range with a HP range of 175 to 350. We are throwing them on a 5.9. so they can flow some air.