What is a 1st Gen. ????

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Re: What is a 1st Gen. ????

Postby DIESELCHARGER1987 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:23 pm

oldestof11 wrote:OH! We have a celebrity here???

Celebrity, That would be Jason Sands not me i`m just trying to find where a Diesel Ramcharger would be classified. If its not a 1st gen or truck then what is it a SUV per SILVRCUMNS he does not know how to spell let alone classify it a suv what is next a predecessor of the mini van.
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Re: What is a 1st Gen. ????

Postby DIESELCHARGER1987 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:33 pm

silvrcumns wrote:Rc's are suv's not trucks. They don't count. More like a car though if anything.

DIESELCHARGER1987 wrote:What makes it a first gen.what year ? 1981 to 1993 or do you go back to 1973? or do you start at 1988 ? Does a p pump count ? Does a Ramcharger count they have the same doors that dont close and lock like the rest of them? Does Cole Dow and red ramcharger count for the fastest side by side drag race within 1st gens? please help im new at this web site thanks in advance


Didn't Cole win those races? I don't think those count either as both vehicles have way too much money wrapped up in them.

YES, Cole did win one of those races but that is drag racing and what is to much money $20,000.00 ? there is a guy selling one for that much in the classifieds . SILVRCUMNS I bet you drive a 3rd gen?
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Re: What is a 1st Gen. ????

Postby silvrcumns » Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:33 pm

DIESELCHARGER1987 wrote:
oldestof11 wrote:OH! We have a celebrity here???

Celebrity, That would be Jason Sands not me i`m just trying to find where a Diesel Ramcharger would be classified. If its not a 1st gen or truck then what is it a SUV per SILVRCUMNS he does not know how to spell let alone classify it a suv what is next a predecessor of the mini van.


Holy run on sentence. Harvey Grant holy cow, I think I met you at a dyno once. I'm sorry that your bastard child of a car is not an accepted 1st gen but don't let that get you down. You still have the " Worlds Fastest Diesel Powered Ramcharger" title to keep your ego up. But here are my thoughts.Back in the day there were no SUV's only the vehicle names. So then we go to a post that said " it's a bed-less truck". Well a truck without a bed is either a van or a car. So take your pick.

Yes Mr. Harvey I do own a 3rd gen. But last I remember you do as well. And if my memory serves me correct you wouldn't dyno it because it is "the worlds slowest twin turbo common rail". As far as what is too much I would say this Jason Sands character has a much better idea of what that value is. And I quote "No First Gen guy would ever shell out the cash for one!" In regards to some performance part in another thread.
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Re: What is a 1st Gen. ????

Postby Richie O » Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:37 pm

If you guys are kidding around thats great. If not cut it out.
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Re: What is a 1st Gen. ????

Postby oldestof11 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:03 pm

I think a ban of silvrcummins is in order. Seems like a troll to me. On here with 2 posts and stir up chit with both....

1st Gen in my opinion is this:

Any square bodied truck from 7?-93. All parts in between can fit as made or have minimal modifications.

1st Gen diesel:

Any vehicle in which a Cummins can fit with NO firewall mods in which the vehicle is made before 93. Yes, 1st Gen crew cabs are part of this.

Doesn't matter if it has a VE (most of us), P-pump (RonA) or CR (Who has one??? I cannot remember his name...), if its in a 1st Gen BODIED styled truck, its a FRICKEN 1st GEN! BED OR NOT! And they made RC with removable tops so yeah, not a dedicated bed but one nonetheless...
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Re: What is a 1st Gen. ????

Postby dieseldawg604 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:13 pm

a first gen is a thing of beauty!! plain and simple!
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Re: What is a 1st Gen. ????

Postby silvrcumns » Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:58 pm

Would you guys believe me if I said Harvey was my boss?
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Re: What is a 1st Gen. ????

Postby JQmile » Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:04 pm

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Re: What is a 1st Gen. ????

Postby Mark Nixon » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:43 am

What the HELL would you want with a DIESEL in a RAMCHARGER? :shock:
Is it the ability to whip cookies at will, while smoking out the neighbors?
How about the sweet ease of PARKING your Cummins Machine?

Seems I recall those being good features....

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Plus it just was plain damned funny to see the looks on the faces of people when I rolled up in a rattling RamCharger. :lol:

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Re: What is a 1st Gen. ????

Postby JQmile » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:48 pm

^^^^^
That's badass....that one is at least an honorary 1st gen :D
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Re: What is a 1st Gen. ????

Postby PToombs » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:34 pm

Marks looks like it's ready to do a wheelie right there on the spot! :lol:
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Re: What is a 1st Gen. ????

Postby truckwrench1 » Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:29 pm

not trying to stir it up but i remember hearing, suv's are the station wagons of yesterday lol :D
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Re: What is a 1st Gen. ????

Postby chrislib » Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:14 am

If it has the aerodynamics of a brick, leaf springs front n rear (4wd obviously) and real vent wing glass then in my book it`s a 1st Gen...1971(?) thru 1993...and YES Ramcharger`s count.
It`s not about how hard ya hit...it`s about how hard ya can GET hit and keep movin forward.

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Re: What is a 1st Gen. ????

Postby 1STGENFARMBOY » Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:21 am

I also catch myself saying ( theres a first gen ) even a gaser, but i think the term was
made for the 89-93 cummins powered trucks, that don't mean i don't like the otherstuff
mentioned in this thread, i'm really liking the older stuff whether it be a chevy or
dodge truck 1/2 ton or what ever with a cummins conversion.

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