500hp

[pulltilbroke]

So what rear is the strongest? I'm working on buying a rusted out 94 what does it have in it a 80?

A 5 spd will have an 80 an auto will have a 70

If you can afford it go with the 80, If you on a budget go with a 14 bolt there cheap and easy to fix

[pulltilbroke]

Heres a few pics of my simple suspension setup thats has proven to work extremly well

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... D=31794158

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... D=31794168
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... D=31794136

[bgilbert]

I love it when someone trys to butt heads with kta at something he's right in the middle of.

[KTA]

Yeah Bill it is funny. I wonder how many here have built Scheid, IRP, or Thunder in Muncie winners? I have 6 1st's alone. I am not trying to tell anyone what to do, I am just offering my vast experience in building power and breaking parts. Over the years I have broken 8 Np205 output shafts including 2 of the improved Pro-fab ones, I have broken 6 of the Nv241 split tailhousing output shafts, 2 of the NV241 one piece tailhousing output shafts, and 0 NV271 output shafts. I have blown a planetary out the side of a NV271, but that was because of trying to boost launch an automatic with too much boost. I have also taken the gear teeth off the gears in a NP205, and pushed the aluminum bearing covers off as well. I have NEVER broken a chain in a NV241 or a NV271. The NV271 is a much stronger case than the NV241 from the 2nd gens. I havent even found one to be stretched even after 300+ hooks. The only chains I have ever seen failed in one of these cases was because it didn't have oil, or had been run low on oil and gotten hot. Sled pulling isn't rock crawling, and gassers don't run anywhere close to the same gears as diesels. Most diesels pull a 13-15:1 final ratio. Most all the gassers I know are running 20-25:1 or higher. That means the diesel see about twice the stress with the same power. That is my 1st hand experience, not what I heard or read or someone said.

[redneckroot]

how many people out there are pulling their 1st gens?

[RumbleFish]

Heres a few pics of my simple suspension setup thats has proven to work extremly well

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... D=31794158

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... D=31794168
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... D=31794136

do i see stacked lift blocks?

[KTA]

I am building one but it will probably be 5 years or more before funding allows its completion.

[dodgetkboy78]

Heres a few pics of my simple suspension setup thats has proven to work extremly well

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... D=31794158

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... D=31794168
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.c ... D=31794136

do i see stacked lift blocks?

LOL.................. That looks like a hoppin' SOB.

O...... I thought I was the only one that caught that.

Doesn't the 271 have a cast iron center and aluminum case covers?

I have stripped gears out of 205's with 440's, I would imagine a Cummins would do it too.
As far as the IAL 95+ front end, they aren't any weaker than the older L/O axle, I don't think, maybe even stronger with the simple hub set up. I believe the axles are bigger too. But whats really neat about them, it the pinion/ring gears will last longer, with the pumpkin on the "ford" side. A lot less stress on them, and the housing.

[redneckroot]

This is just like racing cars, true to it all is... everything can break depending on a 100 different things, racing two different drivers could break totally different parts. The more power you throw at things the more likely it gets. But I do like all of the input, some if it i just wish i knew before i threw a bunch of money into things.

[DTanklage]

I am building one but it will probably be 5 years or more before funding allows its completion.

good thing you aint building a drag bike

in 5 years you probably would not be able to qualify with todays technology

[KTA]

I am building one but it will probably be 5 years or more before funding allows its completion.

good thing you aint building a drag bike

in 5 years you probably would not be able to qualify with todays technology

That is why it is going together drivetrain 1st, motor last.

[redneckroot]

I am hoping to have mine done by the first of july, or atleast done enough that I could trailer it to the pull. (this is the one the anouncer sat there and picked on my truck) So we will see if that can happen.

Next question, I'm in the process of buying a 94 motor and tranny set up, I know the tranny is a 4 speed auto But i'm not sure which one they came with, 47re? 47ru? is it a tranny worth spending money on or should i save my pennies for a year or so and try to find a 5 speed?

[DTanklage]

how well do you think will todays suspension will compare to the suspension in 5 years?

[KTA]

I think suspensions will be pretty much the same. Blocked solid hasn't changed much in the last...........well forever. To get maximum weight transfer from the sled pulling trucks run solid rear suspensions.

[Ace]

To get maximum weight transfer from the sled pulling trucks run solid rear suspensions.

Looks like that's about what pulltillbroke's got, judging by the spring pack.