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by **Remps** » Wed May 20, 2009 10:09 pm

You guys see Jeff Garmon's 3rd gen 1/2 ton with a 700 hp 12 valve?What's crazy is that he has gotten 55 mpg with it.That makes me think twice about buyin a TDI.40 mpg doesn't look so unreachable now.(DieselPowerMag)

by **KTA** » Wed May 20, 2009 10:13 pm

That must be down hill or being towed because it sure won't get 55mpg in regular driving, or even 30 for that matter. :roll:

by **Remps** » Wed May 20, 2009 10:28 pm

You guys see Jeff Garmon's 3rd gen 1/2 ton with a 700 hp 12 valve?What's crazy is that he has gotten 55 mpg with it.That makes me think twice about buyin a TDI.40 mpg with a VE doesn't look so unreachable now. (DieselPowerMag)

by **RSWORDS** » Thu May 21, 2009 7:17 am

KTA wrote:That must be down hill or being towed because it sure won't get 55mpg in regular driving, or even 30 for that matter.

Take it for what its worth but here is the article...

http://www.dieselbombers.com/show-tell/ ... iller.html

He says flat out that in normal driving you could never pull it off but he did it and I dont know why Jeff would lie.

by **seeker1056** » Thu May 21, 2009 7:48 am

must be usin our Canadian gallons lol rotf, lmao

4.66 litres and I beleive yours is like 3.85 litres or some such

lots of guys around here claim to have gotten 28 mpg (Canadian) on thier Ve trucks and are pissed that they get less than 20 with the new stuff

even still 28 is a loooooong way from 50+

by **RSWORDS** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:03 am

seeker1056 wrote:must be usin our Canadian gallons lol rotf, lmao

4.66 litres and I beleive yours is like 3.85 litres or some such

lots of guys around here claim to have gotten 28 mpg (Canadian) on thier Ve trucks and are pissed that they get less than 20 with the new stuff

even still 28 is a loooooong way from 50+

I dont know I bet you could pull it off... I read an article a while back about some dude that gets like 50 or 60 mpg out of a camery because of teh way he drive... Gets the finger alot and coasts ALOT but he does it all the time. I wish I could find the article...

by **RSWORDS** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:06 am

Here I found this... Not what I was looking for but still pretty amazing

http://www.metrompg.com/posts/xfi-pulse-and-glide.htm

http://origin.www.toyota.com/html/hybri ... athon.html

I would love to get one of these guys in a 1st gen to see what they could pull off! Might be some good press for us too!

by **Remps** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:15 pm

LOL! I got the finger more than once on my 1100 km trip (that took 95 litres) doin 50 mph,and I got 27 to the US gallon.(3.78 litres).I kind of had to,my fuel budget was extremely limited.Once I'm in the money again,I'll lose 5 or 6 mpg! :roll:

by **dpuckett** » Fri May 22, 2009 1:03 pm

Considering I've seen 24-25 with an intercooled D250 that smoked like a sled puller, I could see 35+ with high gears in a 1/2ton. 55 is a bit of a stretch, but I agree with RSWORDS, I see no reason for the guy to lie about it, either.

I have gotten 20 with a W350 club cab 4x4 with 4.10s, so anything is possible, I guess.

Daniel

by **KTA** » Fri May 22, 2009 6:55 pm

It is not lying, it is just bending the truth. In normal driving on a mass multiple tank average I would be impressed if it averaged 35mpg, you could probably average 40 in certain circumstances but not over a long term average. Besides why not emebelish a little bit when you are the guy building the trucks, wouldn't 55mpg help you sell more than 35mpg?

by **Ace** » Sat May 23, 2009 6:10 am

I only embellish for the sake of clarification. :oops:

by **Richie O** » Sat May 23, 2009 6:40 am

Seems hard for me to believe. My ma has a TDI bug and gets 55 mpg.

by **RSWORDS** » Sat May 23, 2009 7:22 am

KTA wrote:It is not lying, it is just bending the truth. In normal driving on a mass multiple tank average I would be impressed if it averaged 35mpg, you could probably average 40 in certain circumstances but not over a long term average. Besides why not emebelish a little bit when you are the guy building the trucks, wouldn't 55mpg help you sell more than 35mpg?

I agree, he does say that in the article too.

by **oldestof11** » Sat May 23, 2009 8:58 am

Guys! I am ashamed of you! Does Garmon have anything to gain by claiming 55mpg on something like that? NO! Is it cool that he did? Hell YEA! I truly believe he did it. If you can squeak out 21mpg on a 4x4 W250 4.10's Club Cab @ 70mph (I did) then 55mpg with the right tuning on a 1/2ton frame with a extremely more aerodynamic truck that ways next to nothing, it is possible. Garmon has been helping us cummins guys for years! Why bash him for making this claim? He is already popular and whatever he does is already in the spotlight and will triple and quadruple checked by the naysayers.

Rant off

by **KTA** » Sat May 23, 2009 10:59 am

I personaly know Jeff and he is a good guy. I also know how southern fairy tales work.

Even at half the weight and twice as aerodynamic which it is neither one that would only account for less than 40mpg. I spent 2 years doing engineering work for Ford on increasing fuel mileage and to believe you could consistently obtain 50mpg or better with that setup is unreasonable, he even said so. I just don't like rumors getting started like 100mpg carb's and other urban legends about the guy that my brother knows that................

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