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Postby NYCEGUY01 » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:42 pm

Im looking for a little guidance from the guys here that are or have run a 64 or 62 turbo.

Im currently running a HTT HTBG and need more air.

I will be taking my turbo to HTT this week for an upgrade. From what Ive read it seems like the 1st gen motors generally need a little more turbo than what they recommend for a 2nd gen truck.

The cost to upgrade to a 62 or a 64 is the same. They told me that I may not be able to spool the 64 and they only recommend it for a competition type truck and not for a tow rig.

My truck has low gears and a 5sp trans. It seems like Im always over 2k rpm once on the road.Even empty I can send the pyro to 1500 real easy.

Currently the truck has a fuel pin , pods, maxed pump, adv timing etc.... I will probably be swapping the sticks for some 370's or possibly 435's within a few months.

Ok guys should I just do the 62 or can I run the 64 ???
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Postby 2muchtq » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:51 pm

My uncles tight auto runs the 62/13


I am ASSUMING that you could light a 64/13-14 with your std trans truck. I am not at all for sure though.
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Postby NYCEGUY01 » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:00 pm

I forgot to mention I will be re-using my 14 ex housing I currently am running.
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Postby KTA » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:28 pm

My B-1 is a 64mm with a 71mm turbine and an .080ar hsg. It has always ran great and worked good but I never towed with it. It has no more lag than stock and was enough air to run over 480rwhp on my truck. 8)
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Postby NYCEGUY01 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:11 pm

Well the charger is bieng dropped off in the morning at Hi Tech.

I think Im gonna go with the 64. After I run it a while Ill report back good or bad.
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Postby 90firstgen » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:20 pm

KTA wrote:It has no more lag than stock


Are you serious!? because if you are, that is awesome!
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Postby Begle1 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:48 pm

As much lag as a stock what-size housing?
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Postby NYCEGUY01 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:59 pm

Im going to be hitting the rollers this weekend with the upgraded turbo.
Hoping to get up into the high 300's. 400 would be a miracle. lol

Ive bumped the timing, maxed the pump, old smoky pin, the 64/14 htt feeding through all 3" pipe and a powerjoke i/c, and the lowely set of pods ( will be new era 370's or 435's soon)

Am I gonna get what I want ???
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Postby NYCEGUY01 » Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:26 am

Well I went down to htt this morning.

Somehow even though I was quoted 400-450 2 different times when I walked in the door the price for the upgrade jumped to 590.

For 600 to upgrade I might as well sell the htbg I have and buy a new 64/14.

Is there any good companys to deal with anymore ? Looks like the old bait and switch yet again.

Looks like its gonna be a little while longer before I can report on the performance of a 64
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Postby KTA » Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:48 pm

A stock 89 has an 18cm hsg on it.
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Postby wannadiesel » Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:55 pm

Begle1 wrote:Is there a way to delete these double posts?
Yes.
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Postby Rampower » Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:42 am

When I upgraded from the HTBG to the 62-13 it was around 600 buck's. There could have been a misunderstanding somewhere. I called HTT when it was time for me to do the injectors and the turbo and I was going with the DDP stage 4's. I talked to a gentleman at HTT and told him what I was puting in for injectors and that I wanted the 64-14. He told me that the 62-13 would compliment the DDP stage 4's better than the 64. So they sold me the 62-13 and lost a few hundred bucks in the process. I love the turbo that I have and have to hand it to a company that will lose money to make a costomer happy. I dont know what the comparison of the injectors that you are puting in compared to the DDP stage 4's, But the 62 is a real nice turbo.
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Postby NYCEGUY01 » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:36 pm

If you have a 13 housing its stainless. They quoted me an extra 200 for a new housing. I was gonna reuse my existing 14 housing.

Sounds like you payed what I was qouted + the extra money on the new exhaust housing.


My big problem wasnt the cost itself. It was that I was qouted the same 2 times then after I took the turbo in they upped the price.

It would be a different story if they tore into the turbo and needed to change out other parts etc.. or if I decided to add a new housing like you did.

When its gonna cost 600 + any other needed parts ( It is a used turbo ) I think I'll be better off in my mind just to buy it new.

I found a HTT dealer that will sell me a 64/14 brand new for 1225.

For not much more than what the upgrade costs after I sell mine I can get a brand new one. IMO

If it costs 600 +/- Im ok with that. Just wish I'd have known before I took it apart and drove 1 hour each way. Had I been quoted the correct price up front I would have come to the same conclusion before getting dirty. LOL
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