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building a ve puller

Postby blacksmoking » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:12 am

I am building a ve powered pulling truck, it is 2wd, but I mainly need ve support from you guys, i was planning on building a 14mm ve, but time and money constraints stopped me from doing so. anyways as it sets, I have a non-ic pump setting on the truck, I have 5x20 injectors, I have a fuel system I built myself (stupid pump I paid $200 for died). anyways First off I know I meed more timing, I'm thinking 2 teeth and if RC gets his timing spacer dohickey ready for production I'd throw one of those on it. how much fuel do y'all think I need flow wise? Pump mods are 354 spring, Denny T AFC delete, Throttle indexing, Pump backed off from runaway. the old pump was a 400gph Procomp capable of 25psi, I'm thinking it died because I had it drawing fuel instead of being gravity feed. I am thinking about a Holley Black to replace it, because I will need nowhere near 400gph or 25psi since I'm only running a 12mm correct? The shop I bought the procomp from hasn't replied to my email, so I'm thinking they aren't going to help. I need to get this truck going. I also Need a clutch, what would hold up to this? I want to get a dual disk, but can't find one for a getrag. Basically I'm coming to you guys because I started reading the threads here, and was impressed with the knowledge y'all have about these pumps, no other forums I've been reading go this in depth into the pumps. So I'm here to Learn from those who are much more knowledgeable than me.

Also this isn't my youtube account, my cousin recorded this video, and posted it. that's why the stupid Smoking real good is there. I'll link my account so you can watch my pulling videos from last year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pw7d85wZQQ

https://www.youtube.com/user/MrDieselma ... rid&view=0
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Re: building a ve puller

Postby VanillaGorilla » Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:05 pm

Plain and simple Procomp makes junk, their cylinder head castings are out of wack, their fuel system stuff is low quality, they are one brand I keep off of my street/strip car.
I would think you would need more fuel then the black is going to push, heck I've used a black pump as the stand alone pump for the fuel solenoid on larger nitrous kits with 5.5 psi flowing. Would an Aeromotive or maybe a Fuel Lab Technologies pump cater your needs better?
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Re: building a ve puller

Postby dgosney » Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:27 pm

Kennyspullingparts.com for a dual disc and why not just a fass pump or airdog? What turbo are you running?
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Re: building a ve puller

Postby blacksmoking » Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:41 pm

I was thinking about this one, I didn't go with Fass/ Airdog, because I thought I could Build a better one cheaper, the Procomp threw plenty of fuel, but I'm not impressed with longevity. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fuelab-Prodigy- ... 78&vxp=mtr
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Re: building a ve puller

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:17 pm

Turboram has some tricks to these for pulling..... maybe he'll chime in.
89 RC on shortened 92 diesel frame - NV4500 w/dual disc/4.10s on 37s. - Self built pump, "hot screw", lots of timing, True high volume low pressure lift pump, 62fmw/68/.7gated, 77lpm SAC Inj., Studs/O-rings,- 423/1220 Mustang - 11/16/2013 http://www.TheHungryDiesel.com full line dealer, if you don't see it please ask.
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Re: building a ve puller

Postby oldestof11 » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:39 pm

Been following the build on CompD. Awesome!
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Re: building a ve puller

Postby blacksmoking » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:48 pm

Thanks guys.
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Re: building a ve puller

Postby blacksmoking » Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:46 pm

talked to Procomp today, he got my info, a description of what happened, and my Phone number. it's now after their operating hours, and I will probably not get a call back till Monday. I want to get it running again. I would really like to get my money back, or at least Part, and buy a different pump, I'm really eying a fuel lab, 200 gph at 25psi. I should have bought it to begin with. :mrgreen:
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Re: building a ve puller

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:02 pm

You can get a Dual Disc through Valair that is designed for the 'Rag
89 RC on shortened 92 diesel frame - NV4500 w/dual disc/4.10s on 37s. - Self built pump, "hot screw", lots of timing, True high volume low pressure lift pump, 62fmw/68/.7gated, 77lpm SAC Inj., Studs/O-rings,- 423/1220 Mustang - 11/16/2013 http://www.TheHungryDiesel.com full line dealer, if you don't see it please ask.
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Re: building a ve puller

Postby blacksmoking » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:19 pm

I just got a reply from Southbend $1800-$2000 :shock: I meant to call Kennys pulling parts, but I didn't want to while I was pulling trailers at work. Too late now, will have to wait till next week. good thing is I should be working solid for a few weeks now. I tried messaging Dan on FB, but I guess I should call them or Email the company.
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Re: building a ve puller

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:23 pm

Pretty sure Valair just puts a diff. center hub in their discs and floater plate when is required

But if interested, there is a 1 3/8" input for the rag in the for sale section right now
89 RC on shortened 92 diesel frame - NV4500 w/dual disc/4.10s on 37s. - Self built pump, "hot screw", lots of timing, True high volume low pressure lift pump, 62fmw/68/.7gated, 77lpm SAC Inj., Studs/O-rings,- 423/1220 Mustang - 11/16/2013 http://www.TheHungryDiesel.com full line dealer, if you don't see it please ask.
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Re: building a ve puller

Postby blacksmoking » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:27 pm

I didn't know you could upgrade the Input in the Rag. For sale section here?
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Re: building a ve puller

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:34 pm

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=14255

It's a custom type deal
89 RC on shortened 92 diesel frame - NV4500 w/dual disc/4.10s on 37s. - Self built pump, "hot screw", lots of timing, True high volume low pressure lift pump, 62fmw/68/.7gated, 77lpm SAC Inj., Studs/O-rings,- 423/1220 Mustang - 11/16/2013 http://www.TheHungryDiesel.com full line dealer, if you don't see it please ask.
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Re: building a ve puller

Postby blacksmoking » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:49 pm

IDK, I don't know if it's worth it.
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Re: building a ve puller

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:53 pm

Not in my opinion..... spending that much on the getrag isn't in my opinion..... I'd rather move to an nv5600 but that's just me. I would of done it in my RC but an nv4500 was what presented itself
89 RC on shortened 92 diesel frame - NV4500 w/dual disc/4.10s on 37s. - Self built pump, "hot screw", lots of timing, True high volume low pressure lift pump, 62fmw/68/.7gated, 77lpm SAC Inj., Studs/O-rings,- 423/1220 Mustang - 11/16/2013 http://www.TheHungryDiesel.com full line dealer, if you don't see it please ask.
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