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Re: Build recipe 91 IC truck

Postby CumminsPower59 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:11 am

flyin6 wrote:I would ask, are you a combat veteran?


Yup, two go-rounds in Iraq '03-04, '08-'09.

I do see the advantages of an automatic, trumps a manual except the two afore mentioned instances. I doubt we'd ever have an EMP or the like, but I do fully anticipate a collapse of modern infrastructure, economy, or the like, bringing the US to it's knees and reverting the country back 150 years. It's a sad fact, but it may be a reality someday :(
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Re: Build recipe 91 IC truck

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:27 am

I foresee our country's "majority" to not allow such an instance and therefore welcome (with massively open arms) a country such as China to do what appears to be a "bailout" and by association simply overtaking us. And by overtaking us I don't mean with physical force.
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Re: Build recipe 91 IC truck

Postby ellis93 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:30 am

RCCUMMINS89 wrote:I foresee our country's "majority" to not allow such an instance and therefore welcome (with massively open arms) a country such as China to do what appears to be a "bailout" and by association simply overtaking us. And by overtaking us I don't mean with physical force.


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Re: Build recipe 91 IC truck

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:48 am

I'm sorry........but I'm not going to openly welcome any sort of leadership that is not a follower of the Lord (Christian, though that term is so loose now a days).

China........will persecute Christians faster than about any other country out there...........except Muslim countries.

I should actually say this instead of the above. I will never openly support or be a supportive part of ANY person/country/group/etc... That is not fully supportive of the God's people - Israel. I will always fully back and support the country of Israel and the jewish people............why? For no other reason that the Lord said for me to do so.
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Re: Build recipe 91 IC truck

Postby Tacoclaw » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:08 am

Back on topic, stick trans, pull cable shutoff, and no clutch switch. Have whoever stick it in 2nd, put it to the floor, and hit the key. Fastest way I know of to get to a decent ramming speed with minimal fiddling. Hell, if nothing's in the way and you need an actual cruising speed, do it in third.

I can start from a dead stop and do over 50 mph in third gear. :lol:

I'd never consider any vehicle that couldn't be pop started to be reliable in any circumstance. One dead battery and there's nothing you can do.
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Re: Build recipe 91 IC truck

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:13 am

Yep..........BC will be after us for political threads in no time.


I see where he is saying an auto trans. I like a manual and pull cable because I can have a complete electrical failure and still use my truck. With an auto, my truck would have left me stranded 3 times in the last year.
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Re: Build recipe 91 IC truck

Postby CumminsPower59 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:50 am

When I went pull cable on my 92, for sh!ts and kicks I rolled it down the driveway, which isn't very long, but it has a good 4-5 foot drop over the length of it. As soon as the rear tires hit the asphalt street, I popped the clutch and the thing came right to life. I thought it was kind of cool. Years ago when I first enlisted, during the winter months it was a constant battle to get some of our trucks to start, they were M813's and M818's 5 ton's, 250NA Cummins and a synchro'd 5 speed. A good 25% were pulled or push started, mainly because the batteries were junk (the IANG had no money pre-2003). I like things that can be pushed, pulled or roll started :grin:
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Re: Build recipe 91 IC truck

Postby Tacoclaw » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:57 am

I tested mine once in sonic parking lot, they have a barely noticeable grade away from the curb in all their stalls and I was feeling full and lazy. The truck basically rolled just fast enough to roll the engine over 2 bumps and it fired right up. We couldn't believe it, I did it three more times to make sure it wasn't a fluke.

Getting it started on anything but asphalt may be a challenge for a 2wd though, there isn't much traction to be had back there. =\
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Re: Build recipe 91 IC truck

Postby flyin6 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:14 pm

CumminsPower59 wrote:When I went pull cable on my 92, for sh!ts and kicks I rolled it down the driveway, which isn't very long, but it has a good 4-5 foot drop over the length of it. As soon as the rear tires hit the asphalt street, I popped the clutch and the thing came right to life. I thought it was kind of cool. Years ago when I first enlisted, during the winter months it was a constant battle to get some of our trucks to start, they were M813's and M818's 5 ton's, 250NA Cummins and a synchro'd 5 speed. A good 25% were pulled or push started, mainly because the batteries were junk (the IANG had no money pre-2003). I like things that can be pushed, pulled or roll started :grin:


I can see your points

I guess it's all in how you prep, or think you might need to use the truck.

I do like the manual, don't get me wrong.

Started life as a tanker, as in Armor crewman, M60A1's. Bib, really big Continental V12 air cooled diesel with an automatic. And you're right, couldn't pop a clutch to start it. No motor and you had a pill box with a 105. Back then that was OK, but these days guys like me would hunt you and shoot you with something.

Later on I became an Army pilot, then a special operations pilot. Didn't have clutches in any of those aircraft...Couldn't prop the rotor system and throw a match in the big end. No starter...no wind storm.

BTW I was flying out of Kirkuk in 09, and down in Baghdad in 05-06. Then Kandahar 06-08, and again rest of 09 through 2010
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Re: Build recipe 91 IC truck

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:26 pm

Flyin6, I sent you a pm.
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Re: Build recipe 91 IC truck

Postby Deathrod » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:33 am

i remember somewhere i saw kinetic starters (Or something like that) for the 6bt. You crank it with a wrench and to get tension in it then hit a button and it starts it, no electrical power needed.....keep one of those as a backup. Anyone have info on them? I know i saw a video somewhere.
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Re: Build recipe 91 IC truck

Postby PToombs » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:00 pm

Around here the Amish buy 6Bs to run their sawmills. They take the starter apart and convert it into a jackshaft and run a Briggs and Stratton to start the 6B. They may not have college education but they sure have some common sense! ;)
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Re: Build recipe 91 IC truck

Postby Tacoclaw » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:16 pm

Isn't the Briggs electric? I assume they aren't allergic to mechanical stuff considering they're using engines, but wouldn't the coil and plug cross the line?
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Re: Build recipe 91 IC truck

Postby PToombs » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:19 pm

It has a spark plug and a mag of some sort, but I guess that is ok. I'm not up on all that. I do know that there are different types of Mennonites, some can have cars but they have to be dull or dark, some use tractors, but they have to have steel wheels, etc. You ever see a skidsteer on steel wheels? Weird man, really weird.......
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Re: Build recipe 91 IC truck

Postby flyin6 » Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:32 am

RCCUMMINS89 wrote:Flyin6, I sent you a pm.

Sorry friend, but no PM is showing up

I went to the folder to check it out...Darned thing says I need to participate more "To use this feature!"

What the heck?

I just joined...I'm using this as fast as I can...

Errr....
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