93 w250 aka The Roo Hunter

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93 w250 aka The Roo Hunter

Postby DMan1198 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:20 pm

Ok so someone on here told me not to pull a cmann250 and just make a build thread already, so here goes.

I'll start off by giving a little background on the truck. My dad bought it from the original owner already turned up and turned, but all stock around summertime 2004 kind of as a spare vehicle I think. anyways it got occasional use mostly hauling water, our toys, and picking up parts for the business after we sold our 04 dodge dually (my dad ran a machine shop for a while. Still has most of the equipment too). Occasionally it was DD'd until we get to September 2010 when I started driving it.
shortly after that I was having a conversation with my dad where he mentioned the p pump in the shop could be fitted to it, and that's where the seed was planted to give it an inline pump. then when I bought the truck off my dad and got my new plate the decision was made to shoot for the number written on the plate (1209)
Things went well the first winter. No accidents and I enjoyed driving it. by the next fall I'd burned most of the tread off the back tires, so I had to get new ones. In January I picked up a new exhaust system (it was the flowmaster 3.5 dp back exhaust and not the one I wanted) and all chrome front bumper. then things went poorly. one night driving home from work after it had been raining, and that rain had frozen, I ended up hitting another vehicle with the side of mine (it wasn't pretty) it turned out there was actually a LOT of bondo on the truck from other accidents.
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After that I still drove the truck when needed, and still really liked it, but was rather disappointed in myself. In June 2012 I ordered the first performance mod. A set of DDP stage 3 injectors. they took 3 weeks in which I called twice so ask what was going on. the first time they didn't know, the second time they knew and told me they'd shipped (hooray) we picked them up on a Saturday in July and put them in the next day. once we got her back up and running I took her for a spin, and was like :mrgreen: :mrgreen: the whole time.
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Now that she was making more power (and I was having more fun) I decided I wanted more air so in September I ordered a 60mm upgrade wheel, and 366 spring. then I had some fun taking a few of the turbos I had laying around the shop apart while I waited. turned out I had a high mileage wh1c rather than an hx35, but I had 2 hx40's so I took the cartridge from the good one and got that machined to fit my new wheel, and put it together with the turbine wheel and housing from the wh1c.
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This was a lot of fun, and spooled so much faster than the stocker. a month later I finally got gauges. Then in January I swapped the gauge cluster lights for LEDs so my gauges all matched.
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This was also the time I got my steed speed manifold
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Finally I had my pyro mounted pre turbo, and discovered I was hitting 1400 degrees. Late January I got my DDP fuel pin, and went from 38psi of boost to 40. Then in February I started assembling parts to meet my lofty 1200 horsepower goal. I started with parts for compounds
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Unfortunately I didn’t do enough research before ordering and the hot and cold pipe won’t fit so I am going to actually build all my own stuff. At the end of February I ordered my silver bullet s362 from industrial injection.
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I drove it for about a month like that till this happened
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Then I decided to switch my wastegate actuator to a spring type
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Then I did a bit of overdue afc tuning to get rid of some of the smoke
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Jaeger: 12 ram 3500. Lifted, exhausted, and fed an excessive quantity of air
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Re: 93 w250 aka The Roo Hunter

Postby DMan1198 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:22 pm

I also forgot that about a year to the day of my first accident with the truck I ended up in another accident that caused front end damage
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so I pulled the front bumper off and decided I'd get around to building my own bumper sometime. that sometime turned out to be the middle of May. I got a 3/16" wall bar for free and 6 feet by 8 inches of 3/8" steel plate, and took my first try at welding
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In April I took the liberty of ordering the pump I wanted. it ended up taking over 4 months and several phone calls before it even shipped, and when I got it nothing came with it so I don't even know what's in it. In June I decided it was time to order my cam and whatnot, so a call to Hamilton, and I had a 188/220 cam, 165# valve springs, extreme duty pushrods, and a new set of tappets on there way.
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then at the end of July I made a call to Eric at the hungry diesel and ordered a set of extrude honed 5x16's.

on August 10th I ran into a problem where my diaphragm lift pump failed when I force fed it fuel from a pusher pump, and was left stranded at Castrol raceway just outside of Edmonton. Luckily I had a friend with a truck there and caught a ride home with him. The next week I bought my 4th gen, and borrowing a friends car hauler used it to rescue the old girl.

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since then I've been doing research, designing stuff, and putting lists of parts together to get her built and running
Ducati- professional nap taker, and thread derailer extraordinaire
Brownie: 80 dodge heavy half. Ghost cummins under the hood, and some sinister plans
The Roo Hunter: 93 w250, lifted, 2 whistle machines, and a bunch of other go fast goodies, uhh..... not there yet
Jaeger: 12 ram 3500. Lifted, exhausted, and fed an excessive quantity of air
The Huntress: 02 Jetta TDI. No muffler, egr, horsepower
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Re: 93 w250 aka The Roo Hunter

Postby CumminsPower59 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:33 pm

I'm surprised you made it as long as you did, it's really easy to pull the fuel pressure to 0 on even a mildly turned up pump with stock sticks...
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Re: 93 w250 aka The Roo Hunter

Postby dazedandconfused » Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:35 pm

You have a couple of nice trucks. We won't derail this too bad lol.
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Re: 93 w250 aka The Roo Hunter

Postby DMan1198 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:46 pm

Yeah it was a new diaphragm pump in 2011, but I could kind of tell I was hitting 0psi as I kept momentarily losing power, and when it ran with the pusher in it felt noticeably stronger.

Thanks Andy. The 4th gen looks even better now
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Brownie: 80 dodge heavy half. Ghost cummins under the hood, and some sinister plans
The Roo Hunter: 93 w250, lifted, 2 whistle machines, and a bunch of other go fast goodies, uhh..... not there yet
Jaeger: 12 ram 3500. Lifted, exhausted, and fed an excessive quantity of air
The Huntress: 02 Jetta TDI. No muffler, egr, horsepower
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Re: 93 w250 aka The Roo Hunter

Postby CumminsPower59 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:53 pm

What are you going to do for fuel supply now?
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Re: 93 w250 aka The Roo Hunter

Postby DMan1198 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:00 pm

The plan is a gear driven mechanical pump. If that's not street able I'm not entirely sure what I'll do
Ducati- professional nap taker, and thread derailer extraordinaire
Brownie: 80 dodge heavy half. Ghost cummins under the hood, and some sinister plans
The Roo Hunter: 93 w250, lifted, 2 whistle machines, and a bunch of other go fast goodies, uhh..... not there yet
Jaeger: 12 ram 3500. Lifted, exhausted, and fed an excessive quantity of air
The Huntress: 02 Jetta TDI. No muffler, egr, horsepower
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Re: 93 w250 aka The Roo Hunter

Postby ellis93 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:03 pm

Good god......all I read was $,$,$,$,$ and some more $. If you don't make it to the 1200 mark I bet it'll damn sure be fun doing it.......and expensive :lol: . Idk why I keep thinking money here :scratch: :lol:
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Re: 93 w250 aka The Roo Hunter

Postby DMan1198 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:15 pm

ellis93 wrote:Good god......all I read was $,$,$,$,$ and some more $. If you don't make it to the 1200 mark I bet it'll damn sure be fun doing it.......and expensive :lol: . Idk why I keep thinking money here :scratch: :lol:

you have a good point here. the plan is to spend the money once on the bottom end, and not have to worry about it again. Otherwise yeah it seems to be costing many moneys so far and more to come
Ducati- professional nap taker, and thread derailer extraordinaire
Brownie: 80 dodge heavy half. Ghost cummins under the hood, and some sinister plans
The Roo Hunter: 93 w250, lifted, 2 whistle machines, and a bunch of other go fast goodies, uhh..... not there yet
Jaeger: 12 ram 3500. Lifted, exhausted, and fed an excessive quantity of air
The Huntress: 02 Jetta TDI. No muffler, egr, horsepower
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Re: 93 w250 aka The Roo Hunter

Postby DMan1198 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:36 pm

I also have a set of second gen seats I'm getting recovered in red :D
Ducati- professional nap taker, and thread derailer extraordinaire
Brownie: 80 dodge heavy half. Ghost cummins under the hood, and some sinister plans
The Roo Hunter: 93 w250, lifted, 2 whistle machines, and a bunch of other go fast goodies, uhh..... not there yet
Jaeger: 12 ram 3500. Lifted, exhausted, and fed an excessive quantity of air
The Huntress: 02 Jetta TDI. No muffler, egr, horsepower
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Re: 93 w250 aka The Roo Hunter

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:51 pm

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Re: 93 w250 aka The Roo Hunter

Postby CumminsPower59 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:24 pm

Take lots of pictures when you do those 2nd gen seats, I have a set in tan that I want to put in The Pile.
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Re: 93 w250 aka The Roo Hunter

Postby DMan1198 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:59 pm

CumminsPower59 wrote:Take lots of pictures when you do those 2nd gen seats, I have a set in tan that I want to put in The Pile.

I can do that. I'm not sure when they'll get done since my brothers sister in law is doing them, and it's kind of in her spare time deal so I get a pretty good deal compared to her other customers. I guess at some point beer ended up spilled on them
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Brownie: 80 dodge heavy half. Ghost cummins under the hood, and some sinister plans
The Roo Hunter: 93 w250, lifted, 2 whistle machines, and a bunch of other go fast goodies, uhh..... not there yet
Jaeger: 12 ram 3500. Lifted, exhausted, and fed an excessive quantity of air
The Huntress: 02 Jetta TDI. No muffler, egr, horsepower
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Re: 93 w250 aka The Roo Hunter

Postby ellis93 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:37 pm

So.....earlier I forgot to ask.....where's the hybrid turbo? Still got it? Wanna sell it?
93 D250 ,5 speed,4.11s,k&n autometer tach pyro trans boost guages,GDS 60mm h1c 14cm,honed 5x10,hplp/reg,1/8 timing,M+H M2 fuel pin, tims cooler tubz
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Re: 93 w250 aka The Roo Hunter

Postby DMan1198 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:46 pm

It's sitting in my shop. Could probably do with being balanced. Wanna buy it?
Ducati- professional nap taker, and thread derailer extraordinaire
Brownie: 80 dodge heavy half. Ghost cummins under the hood, and some sinister plans
The Roo Hunter: 93 w250, lifted, 2 whistle machines, and a bunch of other go fast goodies, uhh..... not there yet
Jaeger: 12 ram 3500. Lifted, exhausted, and fed an excessive quantity of air
The Huntress: 02 Jetta TDI. No muffler, egr, horsepower
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