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Head Studs? I blew my headgasket...

Postby Begle1 » Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:28 pm

What's the story with headstuds on the market currently? Are there any that work without bottom tapping/ milling/ valve cover modification?

I'm rather certain I asploded my headgasket yesterday and am going to try to just replace it with studs, get it nice and tight and hope it seals again...
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Re: Head Studs? I blew my headgasket...

Postby fatty » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:27 pm

ARP requires milling the pedestals and A1 requires valve cover grinding. I don't know of any others.
Also, its not a good idea to just put the head back on and hope it seals well. You really should bring it to a machine shop and get it checked for flatness and decked if necessary.
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Re: Head Studs? I blew my headgasket...

Postby fatty » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:29 pm

I'm sure you already know that but just letting you know I would not recommend it. FWIW
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Re: Head Studs? I blew my headgasket...

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:07 am

A1 studs I feel are superior... They have more stud to block contact and save money when considering the price of milling the rocker stantions.

However, either will work... just up to you. Pick your poison type of deal.
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Re: Head Studs? I blew my headgasket...

Postby Kasper Cummins » Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:29 am

If I didn't already have ARPs I would have tried might diesel head bolts. I know there not studs but I think it's a nice step between studs and stock bolts.
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Re: Head Studs? I blew my headgasket...

Postby Begle1 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:51 am

Are all 12 valve studs the same?

Where's the best place to buy 1st gen studs currently?


I'm a little bit out of the loop here currently. :cry:




I know it's a bad idea to just bolt the head back on and hope it works, but I've had a headgasket in my garage for 5 years now just waiting to be used and I figure I'm really not out anything when it doesn't work. And I know that if I did go through the effort of getting it checked for flatness, it isn't going to be flat, and I'm looking at machine shop money anyways, at which point I oughtaswell rebuild the 400,000 mile engine entirely, which I just don't really want to do right now.

Anybody got a whole engine for sale? I have money nowadays, just no time...
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Re: Head Studs? I blew my headgasket...

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:39 pm

12 valve studs are 12 valve studs.

Begle.... I'd be glad to help you out with either choice you decide (arp, or A1).
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Re: Head Studs? I blew my headgasket...

Postby Tacoclaw » Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:53 pm

What were you doing that you blew it? I vaguely remember you talking about putting a bigger, variable turbine turbo on, right?
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Re: Head Studs? I blew my headgasket...

Postby 93flatbed » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:08 am

Extreme head studs get my vote.
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Re: Head Studs? I blew my headgasket...

Postby Begle1 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:48 pm

I haven't installed the controller rig yet, but the turbo is working great, or at least it was before whatever happened the other day.


It all started when my Volkswagen Jetta lost 5th gear, and so I had to start driving my truck 120 miles each day.

The fifth day, I finally got around to checking the oil at the gas station and I was around 1" below the "low" mark. I went to Walmart on the way home that night, bought a gallon of 15w40 Rotella like I always use and put in 2.5 quarts. I didn't bother checking the dipstick again at that point.

As I drove away, my oil pressure picked up from near the bottom tick to up one tick higher. (I still don't have an accurate pressure gauge.) That's usually where it runs when it's cold in the morning, before it warms up. I got about 15 miles and all warmed-up, and it still was high. I think, "I probably over-filled it with oil and am going to pop a head-gasket."

So then I get to the big hill and hold it at 30-35 PSI boost, 1250 F EGT and 90 MPH for about a minute, almost get to the top and BOOM, lose power, oil pressure drops to zero, engine dies, black haze out the tail-pipe and a bunch of steam from the engine.

I pull to the side, a puddle of water/ coolant under the truck, it blew the cap off the coolant overflow bottle, EGT's stay over 1000 F for 10 minutes and I call AAA.

Next morning, I'm definitely low on coolant, I check the oil to see how much I over-filled it and see what the oil looks like, the oil looks totally normal and is right in the middle of the low and high marks.


So I don't know exactly what happened, but I imagine I'm going to see something when I pull the head-gasket.

I got a OEM headgasket and the A1 studs from RC. Can anybody recommend a valve spring compressor? I figure now'd be a good time to install those 60 pound valve springs I've had floating around in my garage for the last five years...
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Re: Head Studs? I blew my headgasket...

Postby Begle1 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:55 pm

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Re: Head Studs? I blew my headgasket...

Postby CumminsPower59 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:34 pm

Begle1 wrote:It looks like this is the shiznit?

http://www.torkteknology.com/products/V ... SC020.html


I second that....I really want one.
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Re: Head Studs? I blew my headgasket...

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:59 pm

I've used Tork Tech tools.... Top notch stuff.
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Re: Head Studs? I blew my headgasket...

Postby ellis93 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:56 pm

Geezzz guys.....you can't make that? :scratch: WTH

People can take a pile of scrap dodge and build a truck but can't buy a couple of bolts and some flat bar, to make this? :lol:
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Re: Head Studs? I blew my headgasket...

Postby Tacoclaw » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:21 pm

FWIW, Begle, I've never heard of oil pressure blowing a head gasket. I'm not sure what happened to you, but I doubt it was oil related.
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