a couple cone questions .....

[burnt_servo]

http://www.vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=645


in the above link , about 1/2 way down , it shows a vw ve pump , what they describe in the thread ( turning the offset ground part of the cone in relationship to the pump ) , can it be applied to a cummins ve pump ?

also are the cones in a vw ve the same as a cummins ve ? .....

meaning i can get my hands on more than a few vw cones , and wouldn't mind trying my hand at grinding a new fuel curve into them for my cummins .

thx guys:)

[CumminsPride]

Yes the pin grinding is done often, AKA Old Smokey! As for compatibility I dunno. Get one from the VW and pull yours out of your VE and see if they're the same.

Wade

[burnt_servo]

Yes the pin grinding is done often, AKA Old Smokey! As for compatibility I dunno. Get one from the VW and pull yours out of your VE and see if they're the same.

Wade

i was going too pull the one out of my vw , and the one out of mytruck and compare .....
but the rad support is in the way on my truck right now , so i thought i'd ask here .

[mysteryman]

No the cones are not the same in the VW pumps. There are also several different cones used in the dodges...

There is no need to grind them or mess with them at all... Messing with injection pumps is a good way to get very poor fuel mileage. It is also a good way to screw up your pump and or engine !

If you want a little more power turn the main fuel pressure screw in (clockwise) 1/2 to 1 full turn in. Then get yourself a 16 cm turbo housing.

The trick is not getting the power out of the the engine.. The trick is keeping the engine, trans and rear from exploding !!

good luck

http://www.vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=645


in the above link , about 1/2 way down , it shows a vw ve pump , what they describe in the thread ( turning the offset ground part of the cone in relationship to the pump ) , can it be applied to a cummins ve pump ?

also are the cones in a vw ve the same as a cummins ve ? .....

meaning i can get my hands on more than a few vw cones , and wouldn't mind trying my hand at grinding a new fuel curve into them for my cummins .

thx guys:)

[flashgordon]

No the cones are not the same in the VW pumps. There are also several different cones used in the dodges...

There is no need to grind them or mess with them at all... Messing with injection pumps is a good way to get very poor fuel mileage. It is also a good way to screw up your pump and or engine !

If you want a little more power turn the main fuel pressure screw in (clockwise) 1/2 to 1 full turn in. Then get yourself a 16 cm turbo housing.

The trick is not getting the power out of the the engine.. The trick is keeping the engine, trans and rear from exploding !!

good luck

http://www.vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=645


in the above link , about 1/2 way down , it shows a vw ve pump , what they describe in the thread ( turning the offset ground part of the cone in relationship to the pump ) , can it be applied to a cummins ve pump ?

also are the cones in a vw ve the same as a cummins ve ? .....

meaning i can get my hands on more than a few vw cones , and wouldn't mind trying my hand at grinding a new fuel curve into them for my cummins .

thx guys:)

WELCOME ABOARD,mysteryman!

You will find this sight is all about pushing the envealope, braking, rebuilding...........stronge..........faster.........ABLE TO REACH TALL BUILDNG IN A SINGLE BOUND............. OK maybe not the hole site. but there is dedicated section for just that descusion

Flash

[burnt_servo]

i was thinking more in terms of physically interchanging , i would expect the cones to be different .......

actually i was hoping the vw pin would be less agressive , meaning that there would be more meat at the narrow part of the cone , so it could be ground into deeper than a stock dodge cone / fuel pin .

been reading up on old smokey's " fuel pins " .... he makes his out of stainless ... not sure what grade of stainless ...

but the wheels are turning , now i'm thinking it would probally be a heck of alot easier just to make my own rather than start butchering a bunch of old vw ones .


as for blowing up the tranny and diffs ........ it is all how you drive it , some guys could have the cummins producing 100 hp and 300 ft pounds torque , and still grenade the running gear , out of a 5 ton truck , empty .

No the cones are not the same in the VW pumps. There are also several different cones used in the dodges...

There is no need to grind them or mess with them at all... Messing with injection pumps is a good way to get very poor fuel mileage. It is also a good way to screw up your pump and or engine !

If you want a little more power turn the main fuel pressure screw in (clockwise) 1/2 to 1 full turn in. Then get yourself a 16 cm turbo housing.

The trick is not getting the power out of the the engine.. The trick is keeping the engine, trans and rear from exploding !!

good luck

http://www.vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=645


in the above link , about 1/2 way down , it shows a vw ve pump , what they describe in the thread ( turning the offset ground part of the cone in relationship to the pump ) , can it be applied to a cummins ve pump ?

also are the cones in a vw ve the same as a cummins ve ? .....

meaning i can get my hands on more than a few vw cones , and wouldn't mind trying my hand at grinding a new fuel curve into them for my cummins .

thx guys:)

[CumminsPride]

If you're gonna make your own make sure it's HARD! I've found some old electric motors that have the same size shaft that have hardened material. So if you can find some old motors you may have a few fuel pins to try! LOL

Wade

[burnt_servo]

If you're gonna make your own make sure it's HARD! I've found some old electric motors that have the same size shaft that have hardened material. So if you can find some old motors you may have a few fuel pins to try! LOL

Wade

i like it ..... and i have a couple gather dust too . thanks

[BC847]

The trick is not getting the power out of the the engine.. The trick is keeping the engine, trans and rear from exploding !!

Oh my!

[bgilbert]

WELCOME ABOARD,mysteryman!

You will find this sight is all about pushing the envealope, braking, rebuilding...........stronge..........faster.........ABLE TO REACH TALL BUILDNG IN A SINGLE BOUND............. OK maybe not the hole site. but there is dedicated section for just that descusion

AKA not the site for mysteryman .

As far as the vw pin it would work just fine in your VE. It might not have the same thickness/pitch/cut etc as each pin/cone in the Dodge VE pumps. But who cares, it's a replacement part. Modify it to your own liking.

[cummins king]

just remove the afc lever, oh and dont buy the bully dog one, that dont hardent them enough