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Nitrous, Water/Meth, or Air to Water Aftercooler?

Postby RSWORDS » Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:35 pm

Thoughts on each? What would you run?

I have the Nitrous system in the truck, just need to fill the bottle and spray it. Have been waiting till I get a Intercooler or the Air to Water after cooler (that I have in the shed) so that I have somtehing to catch all the little chunks of the turbo. Have a guy that will trade me a Water/Meth set-up for my Nitrous setup.
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Postby Begle1 » Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:13 pm

Finny leakers don't require any thinking and work really good.

Nitrous is simple, works better than anything but is expensive and annoying to fill and illegal on the street in a lot of places.

Water also has a small footprint and non-invasive install, but is the most dangerous and complicated of all three. But it has the most flexibility as well and doesn't have any legality issues.


I have thousands in a water injection system, so obviously I'm a little bit biased AGAINST water. :lol:
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Postby RSWORDS » Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:21 pm

What teh hell is a Finny Leaker? :lol:
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Postby Richie O » Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:32 pm

Air to air intercooler. Begle does not think air to air coolers are any good.
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Postby RSWORDS » Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:41 pm

No room for one, and I wont cut up my stock grill... next... :lol:

Seriously though I seem to remember someone making 627HP with a air to water...
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Postby JQmile » Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:40 pm

For EGT drops and power gains, nothing beats nitrous.

For real world driving situations, I'd go for the water injection. Easy installation, and lowers EGTs.
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Postby peobryant » Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:47 pm

RSWORDS wrote:No room for one, and I wont cut up my stock grill... next... :lol:

Seriously though I seem to remember someone making 627HP with a air to water...


Brian Block (KTA) would be who you are thinking about for 627rwhp.

I happen to agree with Richie.
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Postby RSWORDS » Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:59 am

'91 Cummins wrote:
RSWORDS wrote:No room for one, and I wont cut up my stock grill... next... :lol:

Seriously though I seem to remember someone making 627HP with a air to water...


Brian Block (KTA) would be who you are thinking about for 627rwhp.

I happen to agree with Richie.


Yeah I know it was brian, I was being sarcastic, :lol:

An air to air will no work in my truck, I wont cut my grill and really dont want to (afford to) swap a newer front clip on.
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Postby RSWORDS » Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:00 am

JQmile wrote:For EGT drops and power gains, nothing beats nitrous.

For real world driving situations, I'd go for the water injection. Easy installation, and lowers EGTs.


Jason... I love you... :lol:

I have everything ready for the nitrous, just need to fill the bottle and hit teh button. I just have this image of my turbo exploding and going through my engine with nothing to stop it.
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Postby peobryant » Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:38 am

RSWORDS wrote:
'91 Cummins wrote:
RSWORDS wrote:No room for one, and I wont cut up my stock grill... next... :lol:

Seriously though I seem to remember someone making 627HP with a air to water...


Brian Block (KTA) would be who you are thinking about for 627rwhp.

I happen to agree with Richie.


Yeah I know it was brian, I was being sarcastic, :lol:

An air to air will no work in my truck, I wont cut my grill and really dont want to (afford to) swap a newer front clip on.


Whoops, I forgot the :roll: smiley...

Everyone knows it's Brian. ;)
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Postby bgilbert » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:31 am

RSWORDS wrote:An air to air will no work in my truck, I wont cut my grill and really dont want to (afford to) swap a newer front clip on.

When installed correctly, a 1st gen air to air IC will NOT require any cutting of the grill. Only the core support, obviously. I'm just about to do it again for my tow rig (90 crew), this time I'll take pics.
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Postby RSWORDS » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:21 am

bgilbert wrote:
RSWORDS wrote:An air to air will no work in my truck, I wont cut my grill and really dont want to (afford to) swap a newer front clip on.

When installed correctly, a 1st gen air to air IC will NOT require any cutting of the grill. Only the core support, obviously. I'm just about to do it again for my tow rig (90 crew), this time I'll take pics.


Please do bill... I want to go with an intercooler but I like my grill to much to trim on it.
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Postby GO OVRIT » Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:58 pm

[quote="RSWORDSPlease do bill... I want to go with an intercooler but I like my grill to much to trim on it.[/quote]

And he thinks you(Bill) will rag on him for swapping me for a 91-93 grill.
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Postby Remps » Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:23 pm

I am pretty sure a grille off of a early eighties(maybe even just the center section)truck bolts right on.These grilles have almost two more inches of room compared to the 86 to 90 grilles.If I remember correctly they are 1 1/2 " deep instead of almost 3".Probably give you enough room for a 2nd gen or PS unit. :grin:
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Postby RSWORDS » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:18 pm

GO OVRIT wrote:
And he thinks you(Bill) will rag on him for swapping me for a 91-93 grill.


You dont want to do it last I heard.
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