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Postby Ace » Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:22 am

Begle1 wrote:...If the black smoke gives us a bad reputation, beating the occasional muscle car counteracts that a little bit, right?

I guess that depends on your definition of "muscle car." If it's not doing 13s or better with a normally aspirated American V8, then it ain't a muscle car in my book. Not many Dodge Cummins pickups can make that claim.
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Postby CAJUN 93 » Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:36 am

yep, any true musclecar (intermidiate body, big block engine) from the mid 60's to early 70's is a 13 sec car with todays tires. don't let those mid 14 sec time slips from the late 60's fool you. try hooking your truck up on g70 bias plys :lol: :lol: .

now, back to the subject at hand. i'm modding the wife's ride (finally!!) and have some pod's i bought earlier. will the edm's make enough of a power difference to make it worth selling the pod's and installing the edm's? i'm shooting for 350 hp on #2 and more with h2o/meth. and if so, anyone wanna buy some new in the box piers pod's?

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Postby TWorline » Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:50 am

CAJUN 93 wrote:yep, any true musclecar (intermidiate body, big block engine) from the mid 60's to early 70's is a 13 sec car with todays tires. don't let those mid 14 sec time slips from the late 60's fool you. try hooking your truck up on g70 bias plys :lol: :lol: . daryl


Oh yeah, the good old days!!! :lol: That was a chalenge even with a small block! With 600 ft. lbs. of tq. it would be like being on ice.
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Postby PToombs » Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:31 pm

G70's? I was running 60's on my '69 Chevelle 'vertible, and toasted them all the time! Of course, with a BB 396, 4 speed, and 4.88's, what do you expect? :twisted:
The guy I got it from had it since high school, it was a consistant class winner at the local strip. Once he had 9 or 10 inch slicks on it, broke the wheel studs clean off! :oops: :wink:
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Postby Begle1 » Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:51 pm

So small block Mustangs aren't muscle cars?

I'd classify them as muscle cars, I guess "Pony Cars" would be more accurate, though...
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Postby rbrettctd » Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:35 pm

What are the 370s edm compared to the 435s?
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Postby DLittle » Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:48 pm

The 370's are a 5x12 435's are a 5x14 from New ERA Diesel
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Postby rbrettctd » Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:18 pm

So the 370s are a little milder?
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Postby MikeThomas » Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:55 pm

How are those 370's? Do you wish you had stepped up to the 435's?
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Postby DLittle » Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:22 pm

MikeThomas wrote:How are those 370's? Do you wish you had stepped up to the 435's?


I like the 370's really clean running on my setup but knowing what I know now I would have bought the 435's. I took the 370's apart and sent the tips to extrude hone to work there magic. I had them do a 45% increase on them. They put out a lot more fuel now. I'm going to dyno in August and see if I gained anything.
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Postby Falcon » Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:11 am

DLittle wrote:
MikeThomas wrote:How are those 370's? Do you wish you had stepped up to the 435's?


I like the 370's really clean running on my setup but knowing what I know now I would have bought the 435's. I took the 370's apart and sent the tips to extrude hone to work there magic. I had them do a 45% increase on them. They put out a lot more fuel now. I'm going to dyno in August and see if I gained anything.


Did you like the 370's ? I'm wanting them for towing, With the stock hx-35 and a 16cm non wg I feel they would match up quit well. What do you think? That should get me to 300 with more pump and timing adjustments
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Postby Begle1 » Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:44 am

I thought that 370's were good for a bit less than POD's? In the 370-400 HP area?
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Postby Falcon » Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:29 pm

Begle1 wrote:I thought that 370's were good for a bit less than POD's? In the 370-400 HP area?


From what I was told at newera almost double POD's 52 rwhp as the EDM's 370's are around (if I heard correct) I think were in the 85 rwhp range with better spray pattern

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Postby DLittle » Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:32 pm

Falcon wrote:
DLittle wrote:
MikeThomas wrote:How are those 370's? Do you wish you had stepped up to the 435's?


I like the 370's really clean running on my setup but knowing what I know now I would have bought the 435's. I took the 370's apart and sent the tips to extrude hone to work there magic. I had them do a 45% increase on them. They put out a lot more fuel now. I'm going to dyno in August and see if I gained anything.


Did you like the 370's ? I'm wanting them for towing, With the stock hx-35 and a 16cm non wg I feel they would match up quit well. What do you think? That should get me to 300 with more pump and timing adjustments


I liked the 370's. I dyno'd 301hp/538tq with them. Egt's were never a problem with them. I think I barely hit 1300 on the dyno. That was with a stage3 and 18.5 exhaust housing. They were verrrryyy clean running little to no smoke anytime.
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Postby nvbullhauler75 » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:01 am

This is my first post on this website woooooooohhhhhhhoooooooooooooo first gen only bout time anyhow thenew era injectors are better than pods less smoke and more rwhp is this correct
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