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Re: building atleast 400hp

Postby cougar » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:08 am

ellis93 wrote:
cmann250 wrote:
RCCUMMINS89 wrote:Was this directed at my lack of a dyno sheet?

Nope, I was going to say the exact same thing as you did (quoted above the pic), but didn't get around to it. I like facts. Dyno sheets are facts. Fact is, I've yet to see a dyno sheet for a VE truck read beyond 400 hp with 7 hole sticks.

Another fact is, I could care less about making power. I fold. I should stay out of the power making threads.

Maybe I haven't dynoed mine yet :lol: betcha I'd be disappointed :lol:

Bet you won't, it does exactly what you need it to do and a dyno sheet is irrelevant.

This thread seems to have become something along the lines of measure with a micrometer, mark with a crayon, and cut with an axe. :roll:
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Re: building atleast 400hp

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:09 pm

RCCUMMINS89 wrote:Well, we have some 5x14 contagious sticks going off right now to get flow honed. Should have before and after flow readings from it within the week hopefully. Flow honing starts off at $150 (depending if other stuff needs work)



Flow chart came back...5x14s flowed 65lpm in and 78lpm when they went out. Will have more info once he gets his truck put back together in a couple weeks.
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Re: building atleast 400hp

Postby Remps » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:41 pm

So if flow honing decreases the distance the fuel has to flow through the nozzle, will this make the nozzle weaker? Could a set of 6x9 sticks be flow honed to,say,80 lpm, or do they have to be edm'd to a certain size first?
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Re: building atleast 400hp

Postby dunes450r » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:25 pm

i didn't think it was shortening the distance the fuel traveled. i thought it was similar to cleaning up the casting flaws via porting. it just smooths everything out, so injectors that have rough edm holes will get more benefit than higher quality injectors?
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Re: building atleast 400hp

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:37 pm

It will not make them weaker.... it shortens the affective distance (the distance with most resistance).

It radiuses both ends of the hole. But yes it smooths out the imperfection of the edming of the whole.

You can only hone out so far...generally about 20%
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Re: building atleast 400hp

Postby vefummins » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:25 pm

Ok so I got my engine from my grandpa and he found some old injectors he had.I had a local diesel shop look at them and clean them.they told me they were 6x16s.should I run these injectors instead of the 5 holes
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Re: building atleast 400hp

Postby Remps » Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:11 am

Yes.
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Re: building atleast 400hp

Postby revemup15 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:19 am

The question is what the hell was you gpa doing with 6x16s
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Re: building atleast 400hp

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:23 am

Kind of what I was thinking.... he is a go fast man.
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Re: building atleast 400hp

Postby vefummins » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:30 am

You should've saw the old pistons haha he melted one and broke a wrist pin.blew his ats 4000.he said it ran better on 5 cylinders than 6.the pump had the afc gutted.the fuel pin was ground pretty good.and half turn from runaway.
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Re: building atleast 400hp

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:24 am

An fyi... if the afc is gutted, the fuel pin becomes inop.

was he ever on the forums?
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Re: building atleast 400hp

Postby vefummins » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:14 pm

I know that's why I said had not is gutted.I put the fuel pin back in cus I bought a new pump
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Re: building atleast 400hp

Postby vefummins » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:25 pm

Sorry if that sounded rude.and no this was like 15 years ago.I replaced almost everything in that engine and had the transmission rebuilt.it had billet shafts,a shift kit,torque converter.I'm having shifting problems right now.it goes into od at 25mph.is it cus I dont have the tps and ECM I think not hooked up? Is there anyway to bypass those?
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Re: building atleast 400hp

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:38 pm

vefummins wrote:the pump had the afc gutted.the fuel pin was ground pretty good..



No, not rude....just going off of ^this^
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Re: building atleast 400hp

Postby vefummins » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:43 pm

Sorry I'm not very good with words and explaining.anyway is there anyway of bypassing the tps so it will shift nornal
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