Problem fitting LP lift pump Hungry Diesel kit

[BC847]

Random thoughts . . . . .


- That item Wannadiesel was talking about in my thread over on DTR was the Injection Pump's fuel return line. Knowing some folks can't help themselves, she mentioned it. It runs just at the top of the lifter noise blanket. Roughly two or so inches above where one needs to make room for the new lift-pump.

You can see it in the top of the following image from that thread.



Regarding using a dull kinfe, IIRC, that was in reference to what one member used. I used a metal burr on an air-powered die grinder. Personally, I thought the fella that used the dull knife worked his butt off making room, never mind working with a dull knife tends to be dangerous.

With removing the little bit of the noise-blanket, there was plenty of room for the pump though I confess I did have to bend the top fuel line a little to clear things. no big deal.



- With any removal/installation of the 5.9 CTD lift-pump, be it the diaphragm or the piston type, one needs to have the camshaft parked where the lift-pump lobe is not working the lift-pump. having it otherwise only make the job that much harder. It's in the FSM.

- Trimming the noise insulation as shown above, you don't need studs to install the piston lift-pump. With stacking the gaskets, spacer and pump, the stock/OEM bolts are just fine. I did use gasket shellac on the stuff, so they stuck together as one unit upon installation.



I created that thread back on 02/25/06. To my knowledge, it's the only piston lift-pump install guide available on these here internets.


- Eric, perhaps you should include a link to that thread on your website on the LP page.


- If ya'lled like, I'll make a copy of my Piston Lift-Pump Install Guide here, in these forums if it would help.



And the DTR is NOT the darkside. LOL!

[ellis93]

Does the p pump 12valves have the insulation??? I'm just going to remove it on mine when I transplant the engine.

Yes it does,but iirc it and the tappet cover are shaped the same but that insulater is cut there.

This is solely a turning of a mole hill into a mountain and personally I think it is a tasteless attack on one of our forum members,shop owner/salesman or not. I did this in about 2hrs with a second gen hplp and a boost ref reg after......wait for it......researching the job with Google

[DodgeFreak]

Does the p pump 12valves have the insulation??? I'm just going to remove it on mine when I transplant the engine.

Yes it does,but iirc it and the tappet cover are shaped the same but that insulater is cut there.

I haven't looked....I do have a p pump engine in the garage with a nice window in it ....


This is solely a turning of a mole hill into a mountain and personally I think it is a tasteless attack on one of our forum members,shop owner/salesman or not.

I didn't have any problems with it until that point......Sounded to me like Eric helped him with instructions on how to do it...he just didn't follow them....Like I said...I believe the only reason people complain about needing studs is because they don't make sure the cam lobe is away from the lp. once the lobe isn't working against you it butts right up to the block...

[DodgeFreak]

Random thoughts . . . . .


- That item Wannadiesel was talking about in my thread over on DTR was the Injection Pump's fuel return line. Knowing some folks can't help themselves, she mentioned it. It runs just at the top of the lifter noise blanket. Roughly two or so inches above where one needs to make room for the new lift-pump.

You can see it in the top of the following image from that thread.



Regarding using a dull kinfe, IIRC, that was in reference to what one member used. I used a metal burr on an air-powered die grinder. Personally, I thought the fella that used the dull knife worked his butt off making room, never mind working with a dull knife tends to be dangerous.

With removing the little bit of the noise-blanket, there was plenty of room for the pump though I confess I did have to bend the top fuel line a little to clear things. no big deal.



- With any removal/installation of the 5.9 CTD lift-pump, be it the diaphragm or the piston type, one needs to have the camshaft parked where the lift-pump lobe is not working the lift-pump. having it otherwise only make the job that much harder. It's in the FSM.

- Trimming the noise insulation as shown above, you don't need studs to install the piston lift-pump. With stacking the gaskets, spacer and pump, the stock/OEM bolts are just fine. I did use gasket shellac on the stuff, so they stuck together as one unit upon installation.



I created that thread back on 02/25/06. To my knowledge, it's the only piston lift-pump install guide available on these here internets.


- Eric, perhaps you should include a link to that thread on your website on the LP page.


- If ya'lled like, I'll make a copy of my Piston Lift-Pump Install Guide here, in these forums if it would help.



And the DTR is NOT the darkside. LOL!

what you have here should be enough of an installation guide.

[BC847]

I remember when I first had my truck new back in '93. I remember seeing the Banks advertizements in the back of the few diesel related articles in the truck magazines. I clearly remember being intimidated by the injection-pump. Then I found the Dens-site (IIRC) pages on turning up the pump.

Not everyone has the same mechanical abilities inherent at birth. It's not unreasonable to expect some instruction with custom, aftermarket performance parts. In the same breath, it's not unreasonable to not find any instruction with custom, aftermarket parts. After all, they are custom.


As a general statement, if one thinks they can get a 20some year old vehicle, with VERY limited and dwindling factory support, and have readily available support for everything involved with restoration/upgrading, one is not gonna be happy. Frankly, the challenge of making what's necessary to accomplish my goals is much of the pleasure in owning my heap.

Eric, just run-off some copies of that thread and include them with the pump kits, or as posted earlier, simply include a link to the thread on the webpage.

[PToombs]

I used a 4 inch grinder with a cutting wheel to do mine. I just went slow and if I saw sparks I knew I was too deep and backed out a little. No problems. I was aware I had to cut the insulation before I started, knowledge is power!

[RCCUMMINS89]

Eric, just run-off some copies of that thread and include them with the pump kits, or as posted earlier, simply include a link to the thread on the webpage.

Sounds like a good idea.....


Monoblock - I would like to thank you for bringing up, that due to installation instructions not being included, that this turned into a more frustrated than needed to be venture. Sometimes, we "long time forumers" forget that not everyone out there has read about these swaps in the past. I do remember back in the day, when a lot of this stuff was new to me, that I too had very frustrating days doing (what seems like today) simple tasks. Sometimes we need to be reminded that it is the little things that allows the customer to cherish a purchase. When those little things are not met, it can make a buying experience very un satisfying and frustrating.

[RumbleFish]

I used a 4 inch grinder with a cutting wheel to do mine.

What, no 7"???

[ellis93]

Not everyone has the same mechanical abilities inherent at birth. It's not unreasonable to expect some instruction with custom, aftermarket performance parts. In the same breath, it's not unreasonable to not find any instruction with custom, aftermarket parts. After all, they are custom.

All too true,if it was the case I'd be out of a job. I also realize this because there are things I can't do that others excel in.

[ellis93]

I used a 4 inch grinder with a cutting wheel to do mine.

What, no 7"???

His truck would have mercy pee'd

[PToombs]

I don't have a 7 inch, nor the arm strength to hold the sob in there!

[Tacoclaw]

I don't have a 7 inch.

[DodgeFreak]

I don't have a 7 inch.

can't believe you cut out the " nor the arm strength to hold the sob in there" lol....

[Tacoclaw]

As if he ever gets it in there.

[DodgeFreak]

Well.....at least we know its not because he has a 7 incher lol