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Postby redneckroot » Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:55 pm

Does anyone know how many cfm our stock fan pushes? Or has anyone put an electric fan in theirs? I'd rather spend my money towards an electric set up then a new clutch for mine.
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Postby GLHS » Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:47 pm

Don't know but, they make kits for 2nd and 3rd gen trucks and are rated for around 5500 cfm and people seem to report no problems.

I think the electrics only draw about 1/2 - 1 hp.
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Postby pulltilbroke » Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:20 pm

Just take your stocker off

I've been runnin fanless since October and it doesn't get hot
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Postby Redneckintraining » Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:09 pm

the duel fans of ford tauruses work great.
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Postby LOGANSTANFORTH » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:18 am

pulltilbroke wrote:Just take your stocker off

I've been runnin fanless since October and it doesn't get hot


as in no fans at all or electric fans???

im going to put electric fans and electric water pump on my drag truck......would be nice to not be able to run fans at all......
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Postby redneckroot » Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:56 pm

I just like the idea of having electric fans over the propeller that came on them.
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Postby Ace » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:57 pm

There must be some reason they are still using direct-driven clutch fans on the Cummins engines to this day, despite the fact that the majority of other automotive applications have long since gone electric...
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Postby SChandler » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:36 am

Flex-a-lite sells a set of electric fans for the Cummins trucks, but they don't recommend using them when towing heavy (heavy defined as 18k GCVW). That is for the 2nd gen application. Our trucks have a smaller radiator and the fluid capacity for the cooling system is about 1-1.5 gallons lower than the 2nd gens. You could run the electric fans, but I wouldn't tow with them. The electrics just don't seem capable of moving as much air as the stock clutch fan can.
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Postby Richie O » Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:43 pm

For heavy cooling your not going to beat a stock type fan if it is operating correctly. If you are hauling just a lunch pail around then it would be fine with electric.
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Postby pulltilbroke » Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:29 pm

LOGANSTANFORTH wrote:
pulltilbroke wrote:Just take your stocker off

I've been runnin fanless since October and it doesn't get hot


as in no fans at all or electric fans???

im going to put electric fans and electric water pump on my drag truck......would be nice to not be able to run fans at all......



No fan at all

we'll see how warm it gets this summer, but I do keep the fan in the toolbox just in case
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Postby jensenkennels » Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:20 am

Or, you could upgrade to a Horton. Everyone will tell you they are hard to find. But, when I went Horton hunting I found three complete fans assemlies in two weeks.

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Postby lazyjoe » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:48 am

SChandler wrote:
Our trucks have a smaller radiator and the fluid capacity for the cooling system is about 1-1.5 gallons lower than the 2nd gens




Has anyone put a 2nd gen. radiator, in a 1st gen body? And how much trouble was it?
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Postby redneckroot » Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:48 pm

If you knew what cfm the stock fan puts out and matched it with the same or better for electric i don't see where there would be any problems towing or not.
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Postby SChandler » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:32 pm

redneckroot wrote:If you knew what cfm the stock fan puts out and matched it with the same or better for electric i don't see where there would be any problems towing or not.


Agreed, but I don't think any of the electric fans on the market can keep up with what the factory fan does. At least that's the way it appears from the information available.
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Postby cougar » Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:58 pm

Being able to turn off the fan in colder climates has a real advantage along with a winter front. The heater actually works.
Some of these electric have some large fans, as large as the stock. Do they just not turn fast enough?
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