Timing Advance Spacer...

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Postby Richie O » Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:36 pm

Im shooting for 297 and 301,,,,,, wait,,, thats where I am. Good thats over. :D
1989 W250 727, 3.07 L/S, S300, P/S Intercooler, Stans exaust, Pump adjustments, 127k miles,297 hp
1993 W250 extended cab, rag, 4.10 l/s, 6x16's, HTT 62/71/14 piston l/p, Isspro EV series tach, fuel pressure, boost, oil pres, water temp, volt, pryo, 132k/ 301 hp
1992 W250 with NV4500, 3.54's, 16cm 60mm GDS H1C, ground stock cone, Isspro tach, pryo, boost, fuel pressure, slow, rusty, dented,180k
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Postby KTA » Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:38 pm

Stomp I have a cam you can try if you will do a back to back dyno test on it. 8) Call me for details. I really think it would help a single turbo truck out a lot more than a twin though, but I can't get Kurt off his but to test it! If yall really put a hurting on 700rwhp fuel only I might have to dust off Old Yellow to show how it is done. :P
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Postby oldestof11 » Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:54 pm

So who has more? Stomp or KTA???

Anywho, Stomp, you are getting a pm!
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Postby lectro_static » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:05 pm

Spacer is in, drove it the 40+ miles home and thought I would share what I have noticed so far. My EGT's are down a little at cruise rpm, boost is down also, ALOT less smoke and I mean bunches less smoke, the acceleration on the freeway is notable quicker, seems to pull more in the upper RPM's.
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Postby RSWORDS » Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:06 am

KTA wrote:Stomp I have a cam you can try if you will do a back to back dyno test on it. 8) Call me for details. I really think it would help a single turbo truck out a lot more than a twin though, but I can't get Kurt off his but to test it! If yall really put a hurting on 700rwhp fuel only I might have to dust off Old Yellow to show how it is done. :P


See this is how its done. Two high number HP guys helping each other out. Instead of keepind secrets they are giving each other tips... We need more of this.
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Postby ahale2772 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:07 am

rswords I second that
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Postby lectro_static » Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:33 am

Results are 220hp and 395 ft pd tq. Gained about 20hp and 20ftpd tq. EGT hit 800 and boost was about 24psi.

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soon to be 1985 Chevy crew cab with 93 cummins running gear
weeping head gasket
4" straight pipe
M&H M3 fuel pin
M&H Dynamic Timing Advance
366 spring
Full power screw bottomed out no runaway
Auto Meter EGT and Boost
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Postby ahale2772 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:37 am

wow thats considerable, it would be interesting to see what it would do to a truck with more power/ maybe a 14 mm head, where can one get one of these spacers?
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Postby lectro_static » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:11 pm

Here is their web site, they are great guys to deal with. http://www.mandhinc.net/DPD-0.html
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Full power screw bottomed out no runaway
Auto Meter EGT and Boost
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Postby diesel freak01 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:25 pm

what kind of price are we looking at for this little jewel?
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Postby lectro_static » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:28 pm

I believe he charges $105 shipped, Im close so I drove down and he even put it in for me for $100.
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weeping head gasket
4" straight pipe
M&H M3 fuel pin
M&H Dynamic Timing Advance
366 spring
Full power screw bottomed out no runaway
Auto Meter EGT and Boost
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Postby ahale2772 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:44 pm

is it an easy install? im plannin on snatchin one up i bumped my pump to the head today it seelms to like rpms better
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Postby lectro_static » Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:00 pm

REALLY EASY, pull KSB, spring and shim(s) put spacer in, put spring and shims in put KSB on and you are done. About 20 minutes and I had a bolt we had to use a chisel to remove.
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Postby STACKED » Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:46 pm

So are u guys putting the pump back in the stock timing location? Also if u have the ksb hot wired is it going to help it out any more or will it be too much timing?
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Postby lectro_static » Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:04 pm

STACKED wrote:Are u guys putting the pump back in the stock timing location with the spacer? Also will having the ksb hot wired help any or will it cause to much timing?


My timing never got bumped, Im kinda lazy like that the day I went to do it I realized I didnt have a wrench for it so closed the hood. Far as the hot wiring goes I couldnt tell you, mine isnt.
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