air to water intercooler

[BC.livewire]

wow your rite that makes sence

[unixcowboy]

bc look at it this way, the air running throught HOT side of the turbo is ranging from 600-1200 degrees on a normal driving day. some of this heat is transferred through the housing and wheel of the turbo. so say your inlet air only gathers half of the heat thats goin out the exhaust. thats still 300 to 600 degrees. plus whatever heat is generated while compressing your air to the engine.

Then why does my manifold air temp gauge read ony 125* during normal driving and go up to ~ 160* when I'm pushing it hard ???

[ellis93]

From ur sig looks like ur truck is far from stock form. That may be why. Mine is farly stock. Had a 35 on it but took it off when it pissed oil in the cooler.

[diesel freak01]

i would guess that whistle has a lot to do with it as being more efficient, free flowing exhaust, heck i dunno if im even 100% correct but i thought and was taught thats how it works and thats why there is a need for the intercooler. if you could run a turbo without an intercooler why did they start putting them in? not too mention your taking the temps after the intercooler, asi was saying this is all at the turbo. if you were to pipe the air to the air-water cooler then to the intercooler your air would prolly be MUCH cooler than you have now.

[ellis93]

It really does make sense to put it be for the factory intercooler. In doing that what would the likly hood of heatin up the motor be.

[diesel freak01]

i would say very slim to none. its prolly not gonna dicipate all of the heat in the air with the air moving through so fast, but it makes more sense to put it first and at least bring it down to the water temp and then to the intercooler to lower it more from there. but again just my .02

[unixcowboy]

i would guess that whistle has a lot to do with it as being more efficient, free flowing exhaust, heck i dunno if im even 100% correct but i thought and was taught thats how it works and thats why there is a need for the intercooler. if you could run a turbo without an intercooler why did they start putting them in? not too mention your taking the temps after the intercooler, asi was saying this is all at the turbo. if you were to pipe the air to the air-water cooler then to the intercooler your air would prolly be MUCH cooler than you have now.

Thank the EPA - after all don't you know how bad diesels pollute ?

[Douglas]

hey-Hey!!!,
When a Diesel runs lean, and with high charge air temperature( as in part throttle, and under boost ) it makes NOx like a fiend. EGR does away with lots of that effect, but a charge air cooler also helps...and it allows boots( and fuel ) so we make more power. A good IC is good for a 10% increase in fuel efficiency( check BSFC claims with and w/o IC's fitted ).
cheers,
Douglas

[BC.livewire]

have you guys seen what Ebay has to offer in air-to-water intercooler kits ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Liquid-W ... 483b322bfc

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TYPE-5-W ... 1e5cc6c955

now I know they are maybe cheep china junk but for 1/2 the price of a nice "banks" IC

and you can keep your old IC to have the air cooled down twice

just adding more fuel to this thread

[ellis93]

Now were are u gonna file all of that in our trucks. That is a lot of stuff. But it would be cool as H to pop the hood to look at. Only thing cooler would be two,o no maby three turbos. Seen some write ups on some 03 or 04 commin rail that have them. Would be cool if we could.

[BC.livewire]

after shoe horning a turbo set up under the hood of a saturn SC2 to make 300Hp

I find theres enef room under the hood of a 1st gen for a 2nd cummings motor with turbos

[diesel freak01]

CUMMINGS!!!!????? ARE YOU SERIOUS??????

[ellis93]

Fat fingered the keyboard, I'm shure

[BC.livewire]

http://www.streetfire.net/video/turboed ... 648257.htm

http://www.streetfire.net/video/some-fb ... 682099.htm

[ellis93]

Man BC that site is a crapper dude. The people on there missed the whole " if you can't say anythin nice don't say anything at all" thing. Must be some folks alittle younger than me there. Punks.
Anyway. I'm gonna gather up some more parts and try to install that air to water in the next weeks. Gonna put after the turbo so that air hits it first. Thanks to all