RICE BURNING?

[Rug_Trucker]

I had a guy give me a bunch of Honda ATF. Anyone use tranny fluid in their fuel?

Does it increase lubricity?

[1991cummins]

a friend of mine runs it and has not had any problems so far... but it has all that friction modifer crap in it and i would be cautious

I just run 2 stroke oil cause its made to burn and lubricate, and it mixes with the diesel good... i get it at walmart in 1 gallon jugs for like 7 bucks... so its not too bad

[Rug_Trucker]

One thing is for sure if the DOT ever dipped my tank they would think "where did the purple fuel come from?" It isn't red it's purple!

He gave me a couple of gallons of Honda light weight synthetic gear lube too. I poured in a gallon with a 1/2 tank of fuel. She sure did smoke when you stomped on it!

That is for people that tailgate

[Begle1]

I've never understood people's infatuations with ATF in Diesel fuel. I've heard that it cures everything from dribbling injectors to retarded timing to bad transmissions to erectile dysfunction... And usually you hear its praises from old salts that probably are coming from somewhere, and it's such widely recirculated advice too.

It cleans, but it's got crap in to prevent it from slipping... Type F supposedly used straight sand.

Apparently it doesn't immediately screw anything up because if it did it wouldn't be as popular. But I'm leary...

[Ace]

FMs (friction modifiers), the magic evil stuff everyone seems to be afraid of, only comes into play where there's friction. I.E between power-lok discs, clutches and bands in the transmisison, etc. If you have friction in your injection pump it's already way too late. The stuff is so diluted at a sane add level, you're VE doesn't know the difference between ATF, used motor oil, or much anything else that started life as some sort of lubricant. The only thing that really matters is the concentration.

[Begle1]

Did Type F or any other fluid use sand or some kind of particulate as a friction modifier?

Or is it all chemicals that won't clog fuel filters or score lapped finishes?

[Ace]

Did Type F or any other fluid use sand or some kind of particulate as a friction modifier?

I've heard alot of crazy myths about oil like synthetic is slipprier, pennzoil causes sludge, etc, etc, but that's a new one on me, and may just be the most outrageously ridiculous one I've heard yet.

[Richie O]

The original owner of my 89 ( retired truck driver ) used atf in my truck. He said they put it in big rigs to keep injectors clean. Mine still runs??? I have had it 10 years but never put in any while I had it. I guess I will pass.

[PToombs]

In the old days when they ran Detroit Diesels they used a lot of it. I bet they tried anything to get more out of those!

[Richie O]

In the old days when they ran Detroit Diesels they used a lot of it. I bet they tried anything to get more out of those!

IN THE OLD DAYS!!! I still have a briggie with a 8V71.

[Begle1]

Grit in type F seems to be a fairly common "myth", it's definitely an old one.

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/archiv ... 59708.html

There is no grit of any kind deliberately placed in any lubricant. The friction coefficient of Type F fluid was originally matched for use in early Cruise-O-Matic transmissions, which at the time had a couple of bronze/steel clutches in them. Ford continued to use Type F, and build transmissions to use it, well beyond the time when the last bronze clutch Cruise-O-Matic was built, and into the late seventies, when it was gradually replaced by the Mercon standard, which eventually became completely aligned with the Dexron specification. Type F has a slightly heavier viscosity than Dexron II or III, and there was a time when it would attack the adhesives used to make GM and Chrysler clutch linings, but that's not really an issue here.

And rebuttal...

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/53879 ... ost4056463

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/showp ... ostcount=4

Can't find anything official looking.

But ATF can't implode anything considering how universally it's used. I got a couple gallons of Dexron III I'll probably start slipping in...

Maybe 40 year old Type F is a no-no, but not something most people have anyways.

[VEfreak]

Hey, don't you think running these higher viscosity fuels, like oil, can be dangerous to ve pumps? I only ask because my dad just got a 6 cylinder turbo diesel volvo with a ve and he wants to run straight veggie.

[Ace]

I imagine the typeF grit myth got started from people tearing down or draining blown transmisisons and finding the wear debris. There could certainly be plenty enough of it in there especially the older ones to get something like that started.

TypeF is still the preferred fluid with alot of racers looking for firmer shift behavior. Nothing wrong with it. I'd use it myself if I was runnning an auto in a quarter mile machine. Probably won't even be able to get it much longer the way these things seem to go.

Go buy a quart and pour it through a coffee filter to see for yourself. The amount of B$ you see on some of these web forums is just unbelieveable.

[IowaCummins]

a buddy of mine told me to fill the fuel filter up half way with atf and the rest with diesel when you do a fuel filter change to some what clean up the ip, injectors and internal crap. well i did that and i have never seen a truck smoke so much out of an exhaust pipe! lol white smoke for about 15 minutes. my 7" stacks were just pumping that stuff lol. you couldnt give it any throttle it would snuff its self out

[MMeier]

Did Type F or any other fluid use sand or some kind of particulate as a friction modifier?

I've heard alot of crazy myths about oil like synthetic is slipprier, pennzoil causes sludge, etc, etc, but that's a new one on me, and may just be the most outrageously ridiculous one I've heard yet.

X 2 !!!