Front brakes - Need brake job help - 1990 w250

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Front brakes - Need brake job help - 1990 w250

Postby Ironforger » Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:28 pm

Front brakes, Dana 60

Ok you know how it is. The rubber flex line from the body to the axle was rubbing the steel brake line and wore a hole in it. So, I'm taking this opportunity to replace my brake lines & do a brake job too. I need to get the rotors off to see if I can either get them cut or get new ones. I have the 1990 service manual but it sux! Rotor removal is not clearly explained for the dana 60 dammit.

Does anyone know of a do it yourself brake job thread for 1st gen dana 60's?

Additionally, best place to get parts? I need calipers & maybe rotors if mine can't be cut. I checked at NAPA, but everything they have there is cheap Chinese imported crap.

Or, any guru's nearby in Central NJ help me?


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Re: Front brakes - Need brake job help - 1990 w250

Postby little doug » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:23 pm

The first gen dana 60 is almost exactly like a chevy dana 60 .I'm sure you could find something by googleing "dana 60 front brakes".

There is a spring wedge to drive out to remove the caliper,you need to remove the locking hubs,the spindle nuts and rotor/hub assembly. remove grease seal and bearings...
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Re: Front brakes - Need brake job help - 1990 w250

Postby dcrossnrinfinet » Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:03 pm

I just finished doing my wheel bearings on a 1991 w350. Here is a link which was very helpful for me.
http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/dev/ ... l?t=143024
I cannot describe everything from memory but can probably answer questions. You will need the tool to get the bearing lock nut off I believe this one is correct http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000K1 ... EMWPNMJ9N3. This is not the one I used. I went to Napa and picked one up but it was quite a bit more expensive. I believe you can also do a loaner tool program from Advance or Autozone to get the tool.
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Re: Front brakes - Need brake job help - 1990 w250

Postby Ironforger » Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:10 pm

dcrossnrinfinet wrote:I just finished doing my wheel bearings on a 1991 w350. Here is a link which was very helpful for me.
http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/dev/ ... l?t=143024
I cannot describe everything from memory but can probably answer questions. You will need the tool to get the bearing lock nut off I believe this one is correct http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000K1 ... EMWPNMJ9N3. This is not the one I used. I went to Napa and picked one up but it was quite a bit more expensive. I believe you can also do a loaner tool program from Advance or Autozone to get the tool.


Thanks for the info.

Mind if I ask what the napa part number is for that tool?

Also, I'm considering new rotors. Is the rotor pressed onto the hub stud assembly? Or is it a "floating" type rotor simply held on when you tighten the lugnuts?

Thanks!
FOR SALE --> 1990 W250 5sp reg cab. 21 mpg. Aprx 145k. (odo broke last year) Fuel screw. KDP killed. Solid floors, rockers & cab corners. Pm me.

FOR SALE --> 1995 Izuzu NPR 16ft Morgan body/side door. 160k. 80 k on reb auto trans. 1 ton lift gate. Pm me.

2002 3500 6 sp Qaud cab 2 wd. 202k <-- One badass truck!

1999 VW beetle tdi. PP520 injec. Rocketchip st. 3. 45 mpg. 260k
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Re: Front brakes - Need brake job help - 1990 w250

Postby dcrossnrinfinet » Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:50 am

Napa Part Number for Spindle Lock Nut Socket is SER 3246. The hub and rotor are 1 large piece.
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Re: Front brakes - Need brake job help - 1990 w250

Postby little doug » Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:11 pm

The hub and rotor are two large pieces and 8 little pieces. :D
The studs are pressed in ,holding the rotor to the hub.
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Re: Front brakes - Need brake job help - 1990 w250

Postby Ironforger » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:45 pm

little doug wrote:The hub and rotor are two large pieces and 8 little pieces. :D
The studs are pressed in ,holding the rotor to the hub.



Thanks doug, that was the info I was looking for. I'm gonna bring it to a local machinist. Still contemplating new rotors.

I picked up the napa 3246 tool too. Thanks guys
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FOR SALE --> 1995 Izuzu NPR 16ft Morgan body/side door. 160k. 80 k on reb auto trans. 1 ton lift gate. Pm me.

2002 3500 6 sp Qaud cab 2 wd. 202k <-- One badass truck!

1999 VW beetle tdi. PP520 injec. Rocketchip st. 3. 45 mpg. 260k
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Re: Front brakes - Need brake job help - 1990 w250

Postby bmoeller » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:04 am

Air hammer with a punch makes quick work to R&R the wheel studs/rotor. :D
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Re: Front brakes - Need brake job help - 1990 w250

Postby slow_90firebird » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:09 pm

How bad are your rotors? You can usually re use them, unless there is a really big lip on the outside edge.
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Re: Front brakes - Need brake job help - 1990 w250

Postby Ironforger » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:19 pm

slow_90firebird wrote:How bad are your rotors? You can usually re use them, unless there is a really big lip on the outside edge.


Well they both have that typical huge rust ring on the out an inner surface of the rotor face, so only the center of the pad was contacting. Although there is probably enough meat left for one cut, I decided to go with the slotted / dimpled rotors from http://brakeperformance.com/ looks like good quality made in usa and zinc coated for rust inhibition, which is good because I hate it when rotor cooling slots rust.

Just ordered them, should be here in a week or so. I'll post my opinion of them once they arrive. I have to get new calipers too, one of them has a stuck piston & bleeder screw broke off.
FOR SALE --> 1990 W250 5sp reg cab. 21 mpg. Aprx 145k. (odo broke last year) Fuel screw. KDP killed. Solid floors, rockers & cab corners. Pm me.

FOR SALE --> 1995 Izuzu NPR 16ft Morgan body/side door. 160k. 80 k on reb auto trans. 1 ton lift gate. Pm me.

2002 3500 6 sp Qaud cab 2 wd. 202k <-- One badass truck!

1999 VW beetle tdi. PP520 injec. Rocketchip st. 3. 45 mpg. 260k
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Re: Front brakes - Need brake job help - 1990 w250

Postby Ironforger » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:25 pm

Dammit. finally got some nice weather, went out to take my hubs/rotors off, and wouldnt you know it, my axle has a big hexagonal outer locknut. NAPA tool # 3246 will NOT work on this.

SO i researched a little and it looks like some dana 60's have a hexagonal locknut. (Did anyone know that?) Found the dodge part# in my dodge service manual. Miller special tools has it: Part# DD-1241-JD http://millerspecialtools.spx.com/Detail.aspx?id=1208

Anyone know if NAPA carries this?
FOR SALE --> 1990 W250 5sp reg cab. 21 mpg. Aprx 145k. (odo broke last year) Fuel screw. KDP killed. Solid floors, rockers & cab corners. Pm me.

FOR SALE --> 1995 Izuzu NPR 16ft Morgan body/side door. 160k. 80 k on reb auto trans. 1 ton lift gate. Pm me.

2002 3500 6 sp Qaud cab 2 wd. 202k <-- One badass truck!

1999 VW beetle tdi. PP520 injec. Rocketchip st. 3. 45 mpg. 260k
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Re: Front brakes - Need brake job help - 1990 w250

Postby manyholes » Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:03 pm

i did my brake job just before winter and iirc there should be a grove on the top threads of the spindle shaft with a slider piece pushed into the lock ring, remove the slider, and put your d60 socket on the nut to spin it loose. if you cant find the socket, you can always use a hammer and chisel and notch a groove in the nut to spin it off, i dont do this unless im in a bind at 2am, hence why the socket is in my glovebox. most solid axles with part time hubs have a lock nut requiring a similar socket. measure the nut size and call around , i think mine is a procore socket.
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Re: Front brakes - Need brake job help - 1990 w250

Postby chrislib » Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:13 pm

You`ll prolly like those rotors, I have a set on my truck, about 10k on em so far and they still stop nice n smooth, no vibrations or rust.
It`s not about how hard ya hit...it`s about how hard ya can GET hit and keep movin forward.

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Re: Front brakes - Need brake job help - 1990 w250

Postby Ironforger » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:41 pm

Still waiting on calipers & my axle nut tool.

I ordered the calipers from http://brakeperformance.com/ & decided to pay the extra $25 for powder coating. They offer a $50 credit for the cores, so I thought what the hell. I don't know how much it's going to be to ship the cores back to them but I doubt it's going to exceed $50
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FOR SALE --> 1995 Izuzu NPR 16ft Morgan body/side door. 160k. 80 k on reb auto trans. 1 ton lift gate. Pm me.

2002 3500 6 sp Qaud cab 2 wd. 202k <-- One badass truck!

1999 VW beetle tdi. PP520 injec. Rocketchip st. 3. 45 mpg. 260k
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Re: Front brakes - Need brake job help - 1990 w250

Postby 93DodgeCummins » Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:49 am

When you are ordering from that website. How do you find out what size your rear brake drums are?
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