Mystery injectors

[cougar]

I pulled out my old injectors thinking about having them redone.
What I got;
on the body:
8965
KDAL 59 P 9 161 245bar
BOSCH 937 (in a circle) Bosch (emblem) FRANCE

nozzle is 5 hole
9745

The 245bar is right, but should be a 6 hole for a 91.5 intercooled. Another mystery from the previous owner. Anyone know what these are?

[thumpertrev]

Probably 5x.010. Those numbers seem familiar to me and when I figured mine out, that's what they were. These where in my 92 engine.

[cougar]

Finally got my gauge pins and measured the holes. They are 5X.012". That might make them 2nd gen 370 nozzles. They sure didn't run like it. The +40hp that replaced them run stronger.

[Remps]

Do you happen to have the numbers off of the +40's? And are they 5 hole? Still trying to figure out what my 4 hole "+40's" are.

[cougar]

Yes, they are Bosch 0432131837.
As far as number of holes and size? I don't know. I wasn't thinking along those lines 2 years ago. Sorry.
They were worth the price and work well for me. Just trying to decide on what to do with the old ones.

[Smokem1]

The nozzle on that holder should be 155° 4x0.013" cylindrical sac type with an emission style needle.

[oldestof11]

Do you happen to have the numbers off of the +40's? And are they 5 hole? Still trying to figure out what my 4 hole "+40's" are.

If they are a 4 holer, then the most likely injector is POD's.

Now, OP, if they were really 2nd Gen injectors and you got 40hp one made for a 1st Gen, then I could see an "increase" in power. Wonder what the pop off pressure was on the ones you pulled...

[Smokem1]

They are not a POD's, they are the same thing DDP sells as their 50hp injectors.

Tough to say on the original injector, but I would assume they are the 5x0.010" mini sac nozzle 145° cone angle.

[Remps]

Thanks Smokem, I think you're right. That would explain why they smoke more at WOT than 6X.009's. I put thinner washers on yesterday and that cleaned up a lot of the haze at idle. They also didn't have that problem when I had them in the 1990. Oldestof11, they're definitely not pods as the pop pressure is 245 bar, and I've always gotten better mileage with these injectors compared to ic or n/ic injectors. Pods tend to reduce mileage in most cases from what I've read. Looks like I gotta buy 145 spray angle injectors before I melt the pistons (Thats what I told the old lady last night ) Sorry for hijacking..

[cougar]

Getting confused here.
The injectors I removed from my 91 where as described in the original post. They have a 5X.012' (I measured it) on what looks like a VCO nozzle. Not original to the bodies.
The injectors I installed where new Bosch 0432131837 without any modifications. They are not Lucas PODs.

I didn't have any haze problem with them until I put the 4" exhaust on. To fix that I had to go to a larger turbo.

Will this 155° spray pattern be a problem as Remps suggested? I use this truck for towing a lot.

[Smokem1]

nozzle is 5 hole
9745

I looked them over yesterday, just for reference to anyone interested that may have the same nozzle and is curious, they are VCO 155° cone angle 5x0.012".

[cougar]

Thanks for looking them over.