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Project Grimm

Postby meby » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:19 pm

Hi fellas,
Project Grimm: I plan on using this thread to document swapping the engine/trans (diesel) out of my 2000 Jetta TDI into a 2000 Ford minivan. We needed a family vehicle that gets better then a 20 mpg minivan, hence the swap. We are projecting from the outset a minimum of 35 mpg. The donor vehicle came with a blown engine from a friends scrap yard and is extremely inexpensive even though it is rust free and loaded with leather etc. The swap will entail a partial harness/computer swap along with the obvious engine/trans/inter-cooler etc. Tire size will be changed to maintain current gearing and eventually mild injectors to compensate for the extra weight of the minivan. We'll likely add a pyro to make sure we don't toast it.

Phase one: completed - checking, measuring and making sure it can be done without major surgery/fabrication.

Phase two: in process - buying as many parts ahead of time to speed the actual swap. We can't be without a family vehicle for months. I just picked up a clutch from South Bend Clutch today. Thumbs up. In the mail are things like a rear main seal, trans fluid, etc - we plan to change wear parts that are readily accessible while the engine/trans are out.

Phase three: mechanical swap. The purpose of this phase is to get the vehicle running and on the road. Fabbing mounts, axles etc. We should begin this phase in a month.

Phase four: finishing misc. Once its on the road, we'll figure out details like making speedometer work.

btw. I know this is a cummins forum, but I know some of you here and thought you might be interested in what is likely a highly unique project. :D
-1991 D-250 bone stock
-2000 Ford Windstar TDI Diesel 5 spd
-1997 Civic Hatchback
-Case 530 CK
-Old Huskee Garden Tractor w/Cub Cadet deck, Simplicity Snow-blower, loaded tires & chains - is it weird the tractor is modded more than my truck?
-Speedex Walking Tractor.
-BCS Walking Tractor


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Re: Project Grimm

Postby ellis93 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:27 pm

Watchin ;)
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Re: Project Grimm

Postby PToombs » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:11 pm

I started reading was appalled that you were going to cut up your Jetta for a FORD minivan! :shock: Then I read further and saw you got a donor. Save what you can, Jetta parts are pretty easy to get rid of, especially any engine parts you don't use. Does that have the EGR crap? if so, get a delete and get it on before you install it. ;)
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Re: Project Grimm

Postby CumminsPower59 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:09 pm

Pete...I read it that he is using his VW as the donor for the van, as the van is really clean...
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Re: Project Grimm

Postby PToombs » Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:36 pm

Ike, I misread it. He IS going to cut up his Jetta! :shock: I had read it like he got another Jetta as an engine donor.
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Re: Project Grimm

Postby rockbuggy4x4 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:07 pm

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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Re: Project Grimm

Postby meby » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:55 pm

PToombs wrote:I started reading was appalled that you were going to cut up your Jetta for a FORD minivan! :shock: Then I read further and saw you got a donor. Save what you can, Jetta parts are pretty easy to get rid of, especially any engine parts you don't use. Does that have the EGR crap? if so, get a delete and get it on before you install it. ;)


I have an egr delete on the way!
-1991 D-250 bone stock
-2000 Ford Windstar TDI Diesel 5 spd
-1997 Civic Hatchback
-Case 530 CK
-Old Huskee Garden Tractor w/Cub Cadet deck, Simplicity Snow-blower, loaded tires & chains - is it weird the tractor is modded more than my truck?
-Speedex Walking Tractor.
-BCS Walking Tractor


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Re: Project Grimm

Postby meby » Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:07 pm

Yeh, the goal is transportation that has a lot more room then the jetta we have now, but with close to double the fuel mileage of any mini-van on the market. The engine and transmission (diesel - 5spd) will be taken out of the Jetta and put in the mini-van.

Yes, we are going to cut up the jetta. Its not even close to pristine anymore - its got a fair amount of non-engine issues like rust, a slug of failing electronic systems and its a salvage title vehicle to boot. I'll be dollars ahead using the owned jetta (low resale value) instead of sourcing a donor jetta to get all my engine/trans parts + any peripheral systems we might use. the owned jetta has the added bonus of having all serpentine components and the timing belt having been changed over the last year and a half. Cross my fingers, once the swap is complete the ford aught to be solid for a long time.
-1991 D-250 bone stock
-2000 Ford Windstar TDI Diesel 5 spd
-1997 Civic Hatchback
-Case 530 CK
-Old Huskee Garden Tractor w/Cub Cadet deck, Simplicity Snow-blower, loaded tires & chains - is it weird the tractor is modded more than my truck?
-Speedex Walking Tractor.
-BCS Walking Tractor


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Re: Project Grimm

Postby PToombs » Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:41 pm

I didn't know the Jetta was a salvage. The time I saw it in Peru it looked pretty good, the rust must be working overtime in Michigan lately! :lol: Sounds like it has had all the necessary work done to it, so it should last a while.
Carry on! ;)
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Re: Project Grimm

Postby meby » Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:09 pm

Yeh. I was a really nice rebuild, but its got rust starting to pop through quite a few places last winter. The only thing that hasn't been done yet is injectors...they are a little tired ( got 220,000 on them - service life is about 150,000 ), but i'm not quite sure I can swing injectors in this deal. It might have to wait a year.
-1991 D-250 bone stock
-2000 Ford Windstar TDI Diesel 5 spd
-1997 Civic Hatchback
-Case 530 CK
-Old Huskee Garden Tractor w/Cub Cadet deck, Simplicity Snow-blower, loaded tires & chains - is it weird the tractor is modded more than my truck?
-Speedex Walking Tractor.
-BCS Walking Tractor


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Re: Project Grimm

Postby dazedandconfused » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:35 pm

Has anyone else done this swap? I'm kinda wondering how everything will fit.
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Re: Project Grimm

Postby oldestof11 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:46 pm

The TDi is becoming the SBC/Cummins go to swap for anything small diesel engine related.
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Re: Project Grimm

Postby meby » Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:31 pm

Got most of the parts ready - swap starts in about two weeks.

Dazed...fitment shouldn't be a big deal. The v6 and auto take up more space then the diesel.
-1991 D-250 bone stock
-2000 Ford Windstar TDI Diesel 5 spd
-1997 Civic Hatchback
-Case 530 CK
-Old Huskee Garden Tractor w/Cub Cadet deck, Simplicity Snow-blower, loaded tires & chains - is it weird the tractor is modded more than my truck?
-Speedex Walking Tractor.
-BCS Walking Tractor


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Re: Project Grimm

Postby dazedandconfused » Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:14 pm

Take a lot of pics for us if you can. I love seeing creative swaps.
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Re: Project Grimm

Postby meby » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:37 pm

dazedandconfused wrote:Take a lot of pics for us if you can. I love seeing creative swaps.


I'll do my best. We are tentatively on for the week of July 29. :D
-1991 D-250 bone stock
-2000 Ford Windstar TDI Diesel 5 spd
-1997 Civic Hatchback
-Case 530 CK
-Old Huskee Garden Tractor w/Cub Cadet deck, Simplicity Snow-blower, loaded tires & chains - is it weird the tractor is modded more than my truck?
-Speedex Walking Tractor.
-BCS Walking Tractor


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